Fin Rot

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I have already posted this in the disease section but I think I'd get more hits here so if any moderators want to delete my other thread that's fine.

Anyway here it is....

The fins on my Aro are uneven and I have done some searching on this site and I believe my fix would be a hospital tank and antibiotic at the stage he's in. I do not think that water changes will fix the problem at this point but I have been doing them anyway. I think it's due to quick water changes and the water not being treated well enough before the actual change. By this I mean filling the tank and treating as it fills. I admit it was stupid but much quicker and I am no longer doing this but aging the water 1st. Any suggestions?

Here's what I am talking about. Help please!!!

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I've never had to deal with fin rot.....bump for your aro!
 
try salt? salt is usually the cure to everything lol
 
I am already salting the tank and the temp has been increased to 86 degrees. Should I stick w/ that and watch and wait or should I pull the carbon and treat w/ an antibacterial like Furan?
 
Aging the water only helps if you are not using a water conditioner/dechloronizer because the chlroine in your tap water will slowly evaporate. But if you are using a water conditioner it works instantly. Atleast from what I understand..experts please correct me if I'm wrong. Any other tank mates? The reason I ask because it doesn't look like fin rot but that something is nipping at his fins. Another reason I say this is because its just his lower fin, if it was fin rot I would expect all his fins would look like his lower one.
 
jphillips2020;2452690; said:
Aging the water only helps if you are not using a water conditioner/dechloronizer because the chlroine in your tap water will slowly evaporate. But if you are using a water conditioner it works instantly. Atleast from what I understand..experts please correct me if I'm wrong. Any other tank mates? The reason I ask because it doesn't look like fin rot but that something is nipping at his fins. Another reason I say this is because its just his lower fin, if it was fin rot I would expect all his fins would look like his lower one.
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Actually there is a clown knife but I am 100% sure its not that for 2 reasons.
1. The Aro actually snaps at the CK when he tries to eat the Aro sticks at the top.
2. The fins on the side(dont know the actual name) are affected on the corners as well.

I saw a post in my searching that had a severe case due to the same type of "quick" water changes.....

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=150354

I am not too sure exactly what this member did to remedy due to not too specific posts....

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=171741Also

I spoke w/ two different lfs and one suggested pulling bio filters as well as carbon and using Furan, the next one suggested pulling carbon and just using Pimafix. I don't what to try because i trust both lfs. I actually was gonna purchase a bunch of stuff for a new hospital tank and they said not to spend all that money and just treat it the way they suggested so they were not trying to make money because they actually put all the stuff i grabbed back for me.
 
the salt will do the job, i dont even know why people use carbon in tanks? fish shops shouldn be going so far to tell people to pull carbon and filters and then dose tanks. are people gonna run these filters through something or let them die anyways..?
atleast these days they do recognise that some products kill filters and dont work when carbon holds actve ingrediant.. but why not just move the fish to a treated tub for a short time and back again. lots of these things can be short exposure times.
clown knifes can get killed by arows so watch that. bash bash and all a sudden one day dead.
qucik water changes may have resulted in chlorines being there, still ussually that would wreck its gills, they go belly up real quick BUT maybe you slightly stressed it.
do you even have sight on something actually rotting them away? if its rotting it wouldnt just be clean finish on the tips. side fins are pec fins.for all we know fin rot may have already stopped.
another thing with changin water is sometimes theres no oxygen in it, so sometimes it may have to oxidise some and sometimes the water company seem to use to much chlorine.. or for some reason theres plenty too much coming from the tap sometimes.
thats reasons why id prefer to send it to a holding tub or tank, get it aerated, have it come up to temp and then use that to exchange with. you wont regret that and will save you mucking around concerend about water changes hurting the fish.. everyone should do this.
for example i have bore water, no chlorine. one time i ran the tap and left it on. overnight! its a 5000 gallon tank.
i came back and the water was murky white. the fish was groggy and still. looked pissed off at me..not freindly. i made him ill no doubt. i was super lukcy in that my holding tank had kind of settle out for a day or so before i made this mistake and we had an unnusually hot day meaning the exhange water was 24 c anyways and not 17 or so. in this situation my water needs about three days to come good. i only meant to change 20 percent so didnt think the fact my water only settled for a day would hurt my fish.
now three weeks later and my fish still aint the same old self/ though he came a bit better when the water cleared.

my old water when the bore was at 63 m deep would rust red and only then would i use it, now im at 200 m deep on a different bore and it dont rust red but goes like milk. the water company here is now set to use bores as house water supply so this is why i wouldnt always just trust direct water lest alone giving it a quick ager treatment. another thing is sometimes they clean pipes. ever notice brown water? all these reasons make it not all that stable.
 
ausarow;2453150; said:
the salt will do the job, i dont even know why people use carbon in tanks? fish shops shouldn be going so far to tell people to pull carbon and filters and then dose tanks. are people gonna run these filters through something or let them die anyways..?
atleast these days they do recognise that some products kill filters and dont work when carbon holds actve ingrediant.. but why not just move the fish to a treated tub for a short time and back again. lots of these things can be short exposure times.
clown knifes can get killed by arows so watch that. bash bash and all a sudden one day dead.
qucik water changes may have resulted in chlorines being there, still ussually that would wreck its gills, they go belly up real quick but maybe you slightly stressed it.
do you even have sight on something actually rotting them away? if its rotting it wouldnt just be clean finish on the tips. side fins are pec fins.for all we know fin rot may have already stopped.
another thing with changin water is sometimes theres no oxygen in it, sometimes it may have to oxidise some and sometimes the water company seem to use to much chlorine.. or for some reason theres plenty too much coming from the tap sometimes.
thats reasons why id prefer to send it to a holding tub or tank, get it aerated, have it come up to temp and then use that to exchange with. you wont regret that and will save you mucking around concerend about water changes hurting the fish.. everyone should do this.
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I think you hit it right on the head as far as the tap water being bad as far as chlorine, amongst other things, and stressing the fish. I have been upping the water changes and treating the water prior to the actual change as well as salting and temp. I'll just stick with this and watch her for a while unless anyone else has anymore insight. If it does get worse I am gonna start up a hospital tank w/ just sponge filtration.
 
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