First Arowana set up

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sorry for no reply to all the excellent advice.
Yes I will be getting an asian arowana, not sure which yet because some are expensive. the most common you see here is silver but they are big, usuallly about 2 feet. i like golden malaysian but i think they're expensive. Even here.
I will wait because as i said earlier i was choping at the bit, and the eager light bulb light went off above my head. i'm look at 6x2x2 feet of 5x3x2 feet which with furniture displacment will be 150 gallon of water in the tank. TBH I'll also invest in half in glass just to be on the safe side.
So now i play the waiting game.
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Originally Posted by dmopar74
no, that is incorrect. waterchanges are mandatory, it doesnt matter what kind of filter you are running

how do you do that then? i thought these fish go into shock easily.
sorry if i sound a bit dense but i've never kept fish as big and i hate it when smaller fish i have had have died through miss management.
A link will do mate.
Thanks again.
P.S how do you edit your posts on here?
 
water changes, at least in my aro tank, are done every 3-4 days, syphoning out 25-30% of the water, making sure to get the waste from the bottom. Then, when adding the water back, I make sure it is the same temp as the water still in the tank, add prime (a water conditioner to remove chlorine and chloramine) and slowly add it back into the tank. I also do filter maintenance every 2 weeks. This involves cleaning the filter media and changing ones when the time comes.

best of luck!
 
Rbacchiega;1577940; said:
water changes, at least in my aro tank, are done every 3-4 days, syphoning out 25-30% of the water, making sure to get the waste from the bottom. Then, when adding the water back, I make sure it is the same temp as the water still in the tank, add prime (a water conditioner to remove chlorine and chloramine) and slowly add it back into the tank. I also do filter maintenance every 2 weeks. This involves cleaning the filter media and changing ones when the time comes.

best of luck!
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exactly what i do, but usually 50-65% weekly with no ill effects at all. ive done 80% water changes with no effects at all. aro's are really sensitive to ph swing, so if you are doing waterchanges regularly, say weekly, the ph should stay constant. its when you neglect WC's and then finally do one your ph can swing and cause problems. the best thing you can do for your aro(or any fish) is to provide clean water regularly for it.
 
Rbacchiega;1577940; said:
water changes, at least in my aro tank, are done every 3-4 days, syphoning out 25-30% of the water, making sure to get the waste from the bottom. Then, when adding the water back, I make sure it is the same temp as the water still in the tank, add prime (a water conditioner to remove chlorine and chloramine) and slowly add it back into the tank. I also do filter maintenance every 2 weeks. This involves cleaning the filter media and changing ones when the time comes.

best of luck!
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I presume you dont have any gravel or stones at the bottom.
if you do have gravel or stone you must have a filter on your syphon pipe?
i semi change water in other tanks, i have a big closed tank out side my house which i fill with tap water and leave it, i then treat the water as and when i use it.
 
With 150 gallon which is it best to go with?
canisters or a sump fillter like this one?
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59689&page=4
I can appreciate if one canister has a problem you still have at least one running until you can fix it. but the parts to the sump including the pump are pretty inexpensive and having spares on hand is an option for a quick fix should something fail.

Man it's all getting confusing :nilly:
 
Well ,I’m going to reply to my own thread after going to a fish fair today. I'm new on here so flame me if you want to.
Having spoken to several breeders and tank builders, I came to this conclusion.
Before I tell you, I’d like to also share the amazing views I was given, however, you’ll have to close your eyes and imagine because I didn’t take my camera.
There were over 40 arowana, all Asia and all in competition. Obviously the most stunning were the Malaysian golden, but the super red aros from Indonesia were IMHO as easily stunning. No fish was less than 2 foot long, most were bigger, the scales of the fish were, for lack of a better phrase stunning, and looked almost as if they were digitally enhanced with colour and symmetry being, for me the most outstanding trait.
For myself, I find any Asian Arowana beautiful to look at and when I buy my fist fish it won’t be a 500 dollar 10 cm one. I’ll stick with the common silver (about 10 to 20 ponud or 20 to 40 Dollars).

Tanks set up, (please remember these ideas as well as yours, which have been most greatfully received), have been given by breeders, owners and tank builders specifically for Asian arowana.)

60 inches long, 30 inches tall and 24 inches depth (front to back). Glass 1.5cm thick is more than enough, most advisers said 1cm is enough.
Filter. Hidden sump filters exactly the same as the one I posted on this thread from “tank set up thread”.

Teak stand and lid with light, cabinet with a central cupboard for the sump filter, and cupboards on either side. All the pumps and pluming done, delivered and set up in my living room. 38,000thai baht, that’s about 400 pounds, or 800 Dollars.
Elhime filters were there with a flashy stand and display with pretty ladies trying to sell (a bit like a motor show)but no customers. When I asked the Arowana breeders and tank builders their thoughts about the electronic pumps, the answers were, “Too expensive, too many parts, too easy brake down, do same job as sump but cost much more!” Not my view because I don’t know and maybe Thai breeders, builders and sellers need to catch up on filter systems but the difference in price between one canister and a sump as shown in the “set up” thread is about 250 pounds. The sump only has three working parts, 2 dry air pumps and one water tight water pump, which, with my limited view makes it a no brainer, but maybe I’ll learn by mistakes. I hope you find this an interesting read and when I do make my set up I will post pictures of it being done.
 
your goona wish you got a bigger tank, 60x24 will be very cramped for a large silver, 2 years max for a silver in that tank, assuming you start with a small silver. if you went 96x24 then youd have around 5 years till you need an upgrade. sumps work great, i prefer them over cans any day.
 
I find that most people in Asia keep an aro in a 4'x2'x2' due to space constraints of their homes. Also asian arowanas are usually smaller in the wild than their aussie & american counterparts.

BUT bigger is always better. WHY? cause of dilution affect, more water to dilute out the bad particles in the water.
When considering a tank the Width is most important.

In terms of filtration systems. Sump is best cause of its size in terms of mechanical and biological systems. Second option is cansiter filters, you have to check the flowrate to ensure that there is adequate filtration.

I am running a 5'x2'x2' for my Jar. It is growing fast but i feel it is more than adequate. So in the end its up to you n your budget.
 
classic-chassis;1587164; said:
For myself, I find any Asian Arowana beautiful to look at and when I buy my fist fish it won’t be a 500 dollar 10 cm one. I’ll stick with the common silver (about 10 to 20 ponud or 20 to 40 Dollars).

Tanks set up, (please remember these ideas as well as yours, which have been most greatfully received), have been given by breeders, owners and tank builders specifically for Asian arowana.)

60 inches long, 30 inches tall and 24 inches depth (front to back). Glass 1.5cm thick is more than enough, most advisers said 1cm is enough.
Filter. Hidden sump filters exactly the same as the one I posted on this thread from “tank set up thread”.
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Are you getting an asian aro or a silver aro:confused:
 
Err Aisa arowana which is silver in colour, maybe I don't know the technical name for them but they are Asian and mainly silver in colour, i live in Bangkok. Same shape and size as a golden or super red but silver and a hell of a lot cheaper to buy.
can you clarify what type of arowana that would be? if I'm mistaken I apologise, but they're deffinatly not like your black aro with the tail starting at the topp fin and going all the way round to the bottom fin.

like the top picture in this link.
http://www.thetropicaltank.co.uk/Fishindx/arow-asi.htm
these were for sale yesterday for 10 to 20 pounds, is it an Aisa Arowana?
Regards
 
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