if that one in the pic is a green then what strain is it cuz i have never seen a green so color less. the only way ill admit im wrong is if theres proof of a different strain or subspecies other wise i say your friends is hybridNoto;2665722; said:
Fish ID?
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I live in California and do a lot of angling around here. I have a local creek by my house and fish in it for fun almost every chance I get and catch these same fish of all sizes. It totally looks like a Green Sunfish to me. I'm not saying I'm right but I have caught some that size and they look exactly alike. By the way my last name is Fish kinda funny huh.... I'm serious it really is.
MultispeciesTamer;2666009; said:
If you had any experience keeping sunfish you would know that they change color rapidly in response to stress, background color, light intensity, turbidity, etc.; juveniles are especially good color changers. It's not a different strain or subspecies, it's just a different color. And hybrid with what, exactly? There is no sunfish species that has all the characteristics of a green but is pale in color.
You are wrong whether you want to admit it or not. You don't know much about sunfish or any other fish, if your past posts are any sign. There's no shame in not knowing- but the best response is to try to learn, not to bluster and pretend to knowledge you don't have.
Yeah Noto I know what you mean. I do beleive he is a Green sunfish though not a bluegill upon more investigation. He is not as tall bodied and has a more narrow profile as where bluegill have a taller body and a fatter widder profile. I think most inexperienced anglers just classify all sunfish as bluegill here in California. But sunfish in general are widely introduced in the U.S. I have cuaght several out of the creek by my house and have kept them as pets for fun and they change color quite a bit as you said before. I read some articles on Green Sunfish and Bluegill hybrids, but the only differences they mentioned really were different weights and sizes.
Noto;2665579; said:
That book is painfully out of date and the drawings are lacking by today's standards. Don't get me wrong...the text is fine but might not captivate someone new to this. I think I paid 35 or 50$ on the book. I would instead recommend Fishes of Missouri by William L. Pflieger and the Peterson guide FW fishes of NA. I think you'll pay about the same price for the last two books as you would on fishes of Illinois. In any case....The Peterson guide is a fantastic starting point for learning and daydreaming.
Not to put salt on a wound...But I honestly believe some members here have been confusing Green sunfish with Bluegill for a looooong time. No biggie but please take a look at an ID book to get past this common error and move along. We're all here to learn and be better for it.
It's important to remember when ID'ing fish that many factors can change color. Color can often mislead an ID if color is used alone. Size/age can be critical when ID'ing and colors will change greatly with age and/or spawning condition.
drewish;2665253; said:
You totally just reminded me of The Shawshank Redemption just there.
MultispeciesTamer;2665290; said:
Many of the people here have been ID'ing fish longer than you've been alive, hell some have made a profession out of it. How you can sit there with virtually no experience of your own (don't deny it because it shows) and completely shoot down what we say is nothing short of amazing. You're out of your leage kid, I suggest you just sit back and listen to what the people here are telling you. If you ever want to be any good at this hobby thats what you'll have to do. Ask questions, take in the information and apply it. I wish when I was 16 and wading around streams I had a resource like this and I tell you, I would have appreciated it. There is nothing wrong with not knowing something, by fighting it you're only embarrasing yourself.
