Fish ID?
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Thats a pumpkinseed sunfish, I catch them all the time at a local fishing hole. Great catfish bait
Guys, no. A pumpkinseed will have a red spot on the opercular margin, a smaller mouth, an irregularly spotted pattern, and a taller body. I think we've already dealt with bluegill. It is a green sunfish. This whole discussion could have ended as soon as Teleost and Sandtiger weighed in; those guys know their sunfish.
i made a mistake today on an ID of a green sunfish....teleost and sandtiger weighed in with the fun little things called facts. and being the....well we will say stubborn type that i am...i looked it up. using the facts they presented...and comparing that to the pictures of the fish that i looked up, its funny....they just happen to be right. there is a little saying that applies here --- "there is just no substitute for experiance" thanx for setting me strait guys
Noto;2666657; said:
The one I posted had just barely gotten the dot. When they're under a certain size it's not very noticable or may not even be there.
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MultispeciesTamer, Are you trying to argue just because, or because you actually want to learn something?
Yes, the fish in the picture has a dot on the dorsal fin, which can be characteristic of a green sunfish, however you can't use that alone (or the blue on the face) to make a definitive I.D.
You said:
I just posted a picture of a green sunfish that has vertical stripes with no blue. Green sunfish often have solid vertical stripes, especially the males (IME).
Your book said:
The green sunfish can also have a black blotch (in fact that's what you're fixated on now), but you're book says no other fish has this. Like the others said, get a new book.
Get away from identifying fish strictly based on pattern and color. You've probably been misidentifying fish for a long time and had no clue, and if you won't take anyone's advice you'll continue to do so.
alright heres a pic of what most juvi greens look like
Physical Description:
· Deep, compressed body
· Black opercular spot with a pale margin
· Very large, terminal mouth
· Large eye
· Tail fin lobes rounded
· Pectoral fin rounded
· Dark body with iridescent blue stripes
· Posterior base of dorsal fin with black spot
Physical Description:
· Deep, compressed body
· Black opercular spot with a pale margin
· Very large, terminal mouth
· Large eye
· Tail fin lobes rounded
· Pectoral fin rounded
· Dark body with iridescent blue stripes
· Posterior base of dorsal fin with black spot
yes some greens do have vertical stripes never said the didnt( i said they have vertical stripes with blue not vertical stripes with out blue) they also have horizontal and sometimes random blue dots down there side. the fish in question has a juvi bluegill pattern down its side. the place my book said that about bluegill it was comparing it to redears, pseeds, redbreast and longear, not greens, warmouth and other similar sunfish.ShadowBass;2666793; said:
Noto;2666343; said:
I'm not sure I would say it covers the midwest well but he does great job when it comes to deciphering big river silvery things (among other silvery things). Aside from my fascination of all nondescript silvery minnows, he's able to cover fishes from a great range of species (keep in mind he has the Missouri, Mississippi and Ohio Rivers all right there). I recall paying about 15$ to my door per book so I think this book is a bargain at this price. I think it's a great book for people just getting into identification since he developed a very simple couplet drawing set to walk you through the ID process. By osmosis some of that stuff is bound to stick
