Fishes for my pond

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i really want some rays but wasn't sure how they would do. they had some at the importer and prolly wouldn't be too expensive. the thing is this pond has a ton of hydrilla, which is good for hiding smaller fish but there isnt really a sandy bottom like i figured rays would need. any exposed area is the jagged limestone you can see on the walls, thats all miami has, a pain for diggin holes. but if anyone wants to donate one to test out how they would do just let me know.

went out today and the prochilodus and myleus are schooling together and being chased by everything from the convicts to even the baby pacu not much bigger than them. the gars are all sticking together also.
 
fishinjeeper said:
trust...i threw in mosquitofish long ago so they are all over and then put in convicts last christmas about the same time as the first tsn and marbled cat, so they have a few generations to offer as tasty morsels. its a big science project as far as trying to create and equilibrium of food fish to predators. Hopefully i got it right. I know a guy that has a pond with 3 BIG tsn, a few redtails, and a bunch of i think pangasius. He has tilapia in there and the cats cant keep them under control. He also has some of the biggest pacus i have seen, easily pushing 25 lbs.

See the problem with Tilapia is that they get big. So if they miss the chance to eat them small they will grow into monsters thenselves. Another problem is that cichlids are very good parents and defend their fry very well from predators and some of the tilapias practice mouth brooding so it give the gfry more chance to live. So tilapia are not a good choice of feeders. I had tilapia in my pond in the Philippines before and they bred like crazy I had to give most of them away. I ended up with more than 10,000 fish from 4"+ I'd say look for a place that offers those golden shinners in bulk. They are a good size feeder fish.

as for your friend's tilapia problem. Have him throw in a few gator gars and arapaimas. that should help him clean up some of his problems.
 
fishinjeeper said:
i really want some rays but wasn't sure how they would do. they had some at the importer and prolly wouldn't be too expensive. the thing is this pond has a ton of hydrilla, which is good for hiding smaller fish but there isnt really a sandy bottom like i figured rays would need. any exposed area is the jagged limestone you can see on the walls, thats all miami has, a pain for diggin holes. but if anyone wants to donate one to test out how they would do just let me know.

went out today and the prochilodus and myleus are schooling together and being chased by everything from the convicts to even the baby pacu not much bigger than them. the gars are all sticking together also.

I wouldn't put rays in there. They would probably starve, hurt themselves, and eventually die.

You should add some Arpaima Gigas in there and some Paroon Sharks. Get a bunch of silver arowanas too. Try to go fishing for peacock bass and dump those in there as well.
 
I like south american theme you have going on! That pond is amazing. My favorite has to be that planiceps. It is going to be a beast!!!
 
trust- peacocks will probably be next summer or christmas, im waiting for everything to get bigger. the pond has 2 sections, a "flat" thats slopes down from 2-4 ft and then a hole about 10 x 10 ft under the bridge. the cats usually stay over there and the little stuff stays up on the flat. ive seen peacocks in action for years and wouldnt expect much to survive if i threw them in right now. i seriously considered an arapaima but just dont think it is reasonable. and the paroons arent new world so they stay out. so i guess i wont get any rays either. yeah i dont want any tilapia.
 
fishinjeeper said:
trust- peacocks will probably be next summer or christmas, im waiting for everything to get bigger. the pond has 2 sections, a "flat" thats slopes down from 2-4 ft and then a hole about 10 x 10 ft under the bridge. the cats usually stay over there and the little stuff stays up on the flat. ive seen peacocks in action for years and wouldnt expect much to survive if i threw them in right now. i seriously considered an arapaima but just dont think it is reasonable. and the paroons arent new world so they stay out. so i guess i wont get any rays either. yeah i dont want any tilapia.


Arapaima unreasonable??? Your pond looks plenty huge.

Too bad you wont mix the paroons would have been great to have a general mix of monster fish from all around the world. Hmmmm why not try to throw in some Brachyplatystome filamentosum in there?
 
You got to be joking? That looks like a rainforest man!!!! TWO THUMBS UP TO YOU MY MAN! That is spectacular! Just make sure you have signs up for NO SWIMMING!
 
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