Fishkeeping. Art or Science?

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Art or Science?


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Scorponok;4780421; said:
This is very correct. Science in this hobby is only a tool. But the moment you purchased a fish for your tank it becomes an art. The choice of your fish represents your taste and expression through creation and designing of your stock.

There are even fishes that were created exclusively because art, such as koi, fancy goldfish, parrotfish and those tattooed fish.

They don't call fishkeeping living ornaments for nothing.
Just because that may be true for you, does not mean it is true for everyone. I get much more enjoyment from the scientific aspect or fish keeping than the aesthetic aspect (although I enjoy that, too). Fish keeping is much more to me than just arranging stuff inside a glass box to make it look pretty (if that is the only reason you keep fish, then what inspired you to get into fishkeeping rather than something else, like flower arranging?). The things I like most about this hobby are observing the fish's behavior and how they interact with eachother, learning about different species just for the heck of it, and learning about chemistry through first hand experience (as opposed to just reading a book about it, or something). And judging by the number of votes for "Science," I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who feels this way.
 
drgnfrc13;4788223; said:
Just because that may be true for you, does not mean it is true for everyone. I get much more enjoyment from the scientific aspect or fish keeping than the aesthetic aspect (although I enjoy that, too). Fish keeping is much more to me than just arranging stuff inside a glass box to make it look pretty (if that is the only reason you keep fish, then what inspired you to get into fishkeeping rather than something else, like flower arranging?). The things I like most about this hobby are observing the fish's behavior and how they interact with eachother, learning about different species just for the heck of it, and learning about chemistry through first hand experience (as opposed to just reading a book about it, or something). And judging by the number of votes for "Science," I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who feels this way.

Ok Mr. scientist. Since you enjoy the science aspect of fishkeeping so much please explain to me how does anammox work and how come we could't implement it into our hobby?

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Im not a genius but, i assume Anammox is a band name chemical considering the R.

And since the arrow points from both NO2 and NH4 too N2

Id assume it breaks the chemical bonds with Oxygen or Hydrogen...then it would evaporate off, the gasses.

...Im pretty sure by that logic we could just run a hydrolysis system to extract them.
 
drgnfrc13;4788223; said:
Just because that may be true for you, does not mean it is true for everyone. I get much more enjoyment from the scientific aspect or fish keeping than the aesthetic aspect (although I enjoy that, too). Fish keeping is much more to me than just arranging stuff inside a glass box to make it look pretty (if that is the only reason you keep fish, then what inspired you to get into fishkeeping rather than something else, like flower arranging?). The things I like most about this hobby are observing the fish's behavior and how they interact with eachother, learning about different species just for the heck of it, and learning about chemistry through first hand experience (as opposed to just reading a book about it, or something). And judging by the number of votes for "Science," I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who feels this way.

well if you go by the poll,most people on here like to eat bacon thats why they keep fish
 
Scorponok;4789399; said:
Ok Mr. scientist. Since you enjoy the science aspect of fishkeeping so much please explain to me how does anammox work and how come we could't implement it into our hobby?

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How does that have anything to do with my post, let alone this thread? :screwy: And another question I've been wanting to ask you: why do you continue to challenge everyone's opinions in this thread? Unless I'm mistaken, the purpose of this thread was supposed to be to share opinions, not to try to prove how you believe other people's opinions are wrong...
 
buddha1200;4789690; said:
well if you go by the poll,most people on here like to eat bacon thats why they keep fish
Lol :grinno:. I would have chosen bacon as well if I would have been thinking about it the same way many others did (using the "bacon" option as a way to answer "neither" or "both").
 
The art inspires science...If there are no interest in keeping fish as a pet, the science would not have evolved this far to support the hobby.
 
good point, the one above
 
Scorponok;4789399; said:
Ok Mr. scientist. Since you enjoy the science aspect of fishkeeping so much please explain to me how does anammox work and how come we could't implement it into our hobby?
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Hmmm i can understand exactly why you are banned now......
What the hell do you have against science ? Do you not undertsand that basicaly everything in the world is science. Science is the undertsanding of the universe around us whether on an subatomic scale or a galactic scale or anything in between. Everything is science.

Tell me something. When you set up a tank do you not arrange your decorations in a way you think will be pleasing to you ? In that sense you are making a hypothesis, then you look at it and decide whether it is good as is or needs improvement and it that way you are analyzing it.Then you take pictures of your new masterpeice(your "observations") You then come on here and post your amazing looking new tank where it would receive criticism and compliments. Just as you would if you were a scientist publishing a reaserch paper to a prestigious science magazine.

By extension would that not make art in and of itself a science ?

Fishkeeping is more like music. You gotta know your scales and theory (that's your science) but at the same time you need to make it sound nice( that's your art/making your tank look good)
 
Scorponok;4789399; said:
Ok Mr. scientist. Since you enjoy the science aspect of fishkeeping so much please explain to me how does anammox work and how come we could't implement it into our hobby?

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I know you are banned but pretty sure you are looking. Anammox requires anaerobic conditions, not all that easy to produce readily. You can use oxygen depleted gas mixture then after the reaction re oxygenate the water. Their doubling time is 2 weeks so very slow growth rate. It is used in industrial waste water treatment but requires high levels of nitrite to work. Which just like oxygen starvation is generally lethal to fish.
 
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