Florida Frost taking care of invasive exotics problem?

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Kogo;3780674; said:
it is very cold (relative to the area) down here and we are seeing fish kills on a larger scale than anything in the last 20 years. Exotics for sure are dying off in mass numbers and the fish farms are in big trouble. But it has been cold for so long that even some native species are in trouble.


Fish farms took a massive loss .

I havent seen any dead exotics in canals other than golf course ponds. I hope most make it .
The canals at deeper depth are still in 60s .

Have you seen any?
 
krichardson;3780670; said:
I dont have much concern for for the wayward pythons and such but I hope those monkeys pull through.


lol I have seen monkeys I hope your right we had 2 consecutive nights in mid 30s with day temps only hitting mid 50s which is unheard of.

Than add many nights of 40s at night .

The pythons will go in the canals ,warm waters and make it ( I assume) . I have yet to ever see one .
 
found a few live cuban tree frogs here today. they lasted so I am sure that most of everything else has too. I really do not think that the invasive reptiles are as much of a problem as everyone thinks and the ones that we should be worried about are the ones that do not get any attention like the cuban tree frog and the brown anole that are killing off and out competing the green tree frog and green anole. Pythons are not hunting anything except for things that are very prevalent and they are not harming populations or out competing anything except themselves. If anything, the pythons just filled the void that was left after humans extripated the top predator that was the FL leopard.
 
krichardson;3780840; said:
That's to bad for the manatee.From what I have heard they have enough to deal with with the motor boats...Good information and thanks for posting Louie.


When I first moved here I thought same that non natives were killers . Than I began to notice that people who complained about non natives killing natives used to live in areas that was lush green but AFTER the developments began the green anoles-tree frogs moved out and the brown anoles cuban treefrogs moved in.

Cuban treefrogs do take a toll but in the Glades park with dense foilage they are to big to heavy to manuever and survive or eat green tree frogs.

Keep in mind that Miami "city" canals are all man made and hot as can be 6 months a yr thus only cichlids can live in them.
Way to hot for any native other than mosquito fish.
 
Most of the manatees know to get next to the power plant outflows, that is where they winter all the time
 
snakeguy101;3780864; said:
found a few live cuban tree frogs here today. they lasted so I am sure that most of everything else has too. I really do not think that the invasive reptiles are as much of a problem as everyone thinks and the ones that we should be worried about are the ones that do not get any attention like the cuban tree frog and the brown anole that are killing off and out competing the green tree frog and green anole. Pythons are not hunting anything except for things that are very prevalent and they are not harming populations or out competing anything except themselves. If anything, the pythons just filled the void that was left after humans extripated the top predator that was the FL leopard.



You know way more about Florida than I do and more about the fauna .

I feel same thing that other than Cuban tree the rest are not an issue if anything "add" to Florida. Well for me anyway lol.
Even the area knight anole runs on the ground and picks off non native brown anoles while the greens in the bushes,tree's are ignored.

Your actually one of the few who has caught pythons that I know of other than a game warden I met not long ago .

I think they have caught under 30 count since the python hunts began?
 
reverse;3780914; said:
Most of the manatees know to get next to the power plant outflows, that is where they winter all the time
Good for them,they already had a sanctuary of sorts.
 
Thats right. Turkey point has the largest population of American Crocs in FL. For the Manatee's, those that knew to congregate at the power plants (which many did) it worked out for. Could have been worse. The constant cool weather probably helped them, in that instead of it warming for a day or two as is the norm for us before cooling down again, the contant cold kept them at the plants, as opposed to them swimming off and getting caught by another front.
 
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