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[Scatocephalus]

I've got several more pics that I'll post later tonight or tomorrow when I have the time.

 

[michael]

great thread

 

[Peanut_Power]

I am still confused how people can go fishing in these areas so readily, yet its still hard to get these magnificent pbass into the states. Is importation from their area restricted?

I know we once thought that Crenicichla tigrina was going to be forever unobtainable, yet not too long ago Oliver brought some in.

Just be patient, sooner or later they will show up again.

 

[bOOsteN aUdI]

I've seen baby fogo before and thus far nothing has been posted here that even comes close.

i agree with scat.. i have seen them before too and they are pretty distinct imo.. I have seen Seichis from babies up until a few months ago (give or take)

 

[Rebel Souljah]

i agree with scat.. i have seen them before too and they are pretty distinct imo.. I have seen Seichis from babies up until a few months ago (give or take)

it was a little earlier this year that Seichi posted the photos, but wish i could have seen them as juveniles.

 

[bOOsteN aUdI]

yeah but something tells me we would never see that coloration in an aquarium. for example the temensis, johnptc has some monster tems that have the mature markings but they dont have the colors of tems you see caught in the wild.

orinos also, i havent seen too many that display the vivid greens of wild orinos.

thats because diet and water quality (ph, softness, trace elements, current, clarity; which most likely refers back to trace elements) plays an extremely important role in the coloration of cichla. each forage fish that cichla devoir most likely feed in a different water column and ids holding a different diet in their bellies. the nutrients from their daily diet is then passed onto the cichla .. These are factors that really can't be matched in an aquarium to where each species of cichla are collected. You normally see cichla with max coloration in a aquarium on a very diverse pellet diet ( I kind of speak for myself and a few others here, with the exception of scat and his goldfish diet)

Johnptc.. those tems may be farmies

 

[bOOsteN aUdI]

it was a little earlier this year that Seichi posted the photos, but wish i could have seen them as juveniles.

weren't posted on this forum

 

[Superlaz]

yeah but something tells me we would never see that coloration in an aquarium. for example the temensis, johnptc has some monster tems that have the mature markings but they dont have the colors of tems you see caught in the wild.

orinos also, i havent seen too many that display the vivid greens of wild orinos.

I think its difficult to come to that conclusion because so few hobbyist are able to house a 20"+ Cichla...regardless of sp. Its at these sizes that colors really start to come out. John's Tems...don't know what to say..they are beautiful fish, with incredible spangling for a Tem, but body shape in general doesn't look 'tem' like to me. Almost look like cichla thyrorus. However, thats the exception, not the norm. Mature markings are definitely attained in aquaria.

I apologize, and someone may be able to chime in because I don't remember this members name off the top of my head, but best Tem in a tank I've seen to date -

Many members have had some stunning Orino's. Tem's grow so large you don't normally see adults as often as you see of other cichla sp.

I've got several more pics that I'll post later tonight or tomorrow when I have the time.

Looking forward to them. It's worth noting that we are posting pics of fish from different locale. Almost all pics if not all I've posted are from Sao Benedito.

Just be patient, sooner or later they will show up again.

again?? lol.

it was a little earlier this year that Seichi posted the photos, but wish i could have seen them as juveniles.

We need Seichii to drop in...hint..hint.

thats because diet and water quality (ph, softness, trace elements, current, clarity; which most likely refers back to trace elements) plays an extremely important role in the coloration of cichla. each forage fish that cichla devoir most likely feed in a different water column and ids holding a different diet in their bellies. the nutrients from their daily diet is then passed onto the cichla .. These are factors that really can't be matched in an aquarium to where each species of cichla are collected. You normally see cichla with max coloration in a aquarium on a very diverse pellet diet ( I kind of speak for myself and a few others here, with the exception of scat and his goldfish diet)

Johnptc.. those tems may be farmies

I agree a diverse pellet diet may intensify color, but I think its down to genetics on what the fish will express. Scat and Dieselmack are both great examples of live feed with great results.


Now....more pics...lol

 

[Omega007]

I think we should sticky this and Jcardona's orinocensis ID.
Great reference.

 

[Scatocephalus]

Cichla mirianae, paratype, NRM 12007, 78.7 mm SL; Brazil: Mato
Grosso: tributary to Rio Suiá-Missu between São José do Xingu and Alô Brasil.

Cichla mirianae, paratype, USNM 199192, 96.3 mm SL; Brazil: Mato
Grosso: upper Rio Juruena.​

Cichla mirianae, paratype, USNM 199231, 152 mm SL; Brazil: Mato
Grosso: upper Rio Juruena.​

Cichla mirianae, paratype, NRM 46003, adult male, 303 mm SL;
Brazil: Mato Grosso: Rio Juruena at ferry crossing, 60 km E of Juína.

Cichla mirianae, paratype, NRM 46003, adult female, 207 mm SL;
Brazil: Mato Grosso: Rio Juruena at ferry crossing, 60 km E of Juína.​

Cichla mirianae, holotype, MZUSP 33095, adult female, 236 mm SL;
Brazil: Mato Grosso: Rio Arinos, município Porto dos Gauchos.​

Cichla mirianae, paratype, USNM 235641, adult female, 218 mm SL;
Brazil: Mato Grosso: Rio Batovi.​