for all you FORD lovers!!
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softturtle said:
Only thing is our Monte Carlo is a front drive POS. GM and Ford of Australia make traditional american style cars, yet in america they make Honda and Toyota wannabes.
Funny because I think Mazda makes good cars. Though not a big fan of the RX8, I'd like to see the RX7 come back. The Ford Fusion (Milan, Zephyr) is a Mazda, the next Focus will be underpinned by Mazda. The 500 is a Volvo, and yes they come with AWD optional, yet are still based on a FWD chassis. What Ford and GM need are quality RWD chassis cars built in America for Americans, and more than just a niche at that. Yes the Mustang, and Corvette (why did GM kill the Camaro? Idiots) are RWD, and the GTO is as well (but imported from down under) and all fill niches. A true RWD based sedan (hell a chasis for many applications actually) is what's needed after all that's what saved Chrysler. Building Toyota and Honda wannabes is alright for the economy car market. No one however wants to spend $40,000+ on a glorified economy car with a Cadillac badge, remember Cadillac about 6 years ago only old people who were alive and believed the name Cadillac meant something still bought them. Now they have RWD cars and not overpriced economy cars, it's just too bad they're uglier than ugly itself. I think Ford is on the right track letting Mazda make their economy cars, they just need to start making some american cars as well, same goes for GM. Most of the underpinnings of Chrysler's new economy cars come from Mitsubishi, and their upscale cars Mercedes. The merger helped them alot, they could only reconfigure the Kcar chassis another thousand times or so to fit each niche.
Filthy, I totally agree, but w/ two comments. First, the current Ford Focus already shares a platform w/ the Mazda 3 and Volvo S40/V50. Second, LOL at the K-car comment. I remember when just about every non-truck Chrysler product was a K-car derivative.
IMO, FWD cars are appliances. I don't understand why people spill big bucks for FWD Saabs, Passats, or Volvos when you can essentially better FWD cars from Nissan, Toyota, and Honda. If you're going to spend $30K or more on a new car, it better be driving either the rear wheels or be AWD. And GM's latest of stuffing a 303 hp 5.3l V-8 into the FWD Monte Carlo, Impala, and Grand Prix is just stupid! They had to make the front tires larger than the rear tires to control torque steer. That's so bastardized!
IMO, FWD cars are appliances. I don't understand why people spill big bucks for FWD Saabs, Passats, or Volvos when you can essentially better FWD cars from Nissan, Toyota, and Honda. If you're going to spend $30K or more on a new car, it better be driving either the rear wheels or be AWD. And GM's latest of stuffing a 303 hp 5.3l V-8 into the FWD Monte Carlo, Impala, and Grand Prix is just stupid! They had to make the front tires larger than the rear tires to control torque steer. That's so bastardized!
Totally agree on the Impala FWD being a joke. GM had V8 front drive Caddies for years and the torque ate the trans-axles up. As for the Focus you're correct else where in the world it's an Mazda 3, just not here in the US yet. The plant in Mexico is being retooled for it. IMHO that's a good thing as the Mazda 3 is AWD capable and a descent car.
