Frustrating 'Xingu I's

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Well, like I said I put the male in a basket. He hated it for a couple days then calmed down.
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After about two weeks, the female started defending the male from the pair of red bay snooks. I removed the snooks (the female's mouth is crooked now) and added six 3.5-4" red devils.
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The next day, I removed the basket.
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There was a little displaying between the two pikes, but their attention turned to the devils. One devil almost immediately lost most of it tail. The next day, two the devils were defending a chunk of wood. Two days later their tubes were down. These two small devils were even able to keep the male pike in check, but the pikes still broke up the pair. He eventually ate the "tailless" devil. So, back to the pikes.
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The male just seems uninterested. He spends most of the day in a pile of wood. When he does come out the female immediately goes into courtship mode, belly dances, color changes, head-to-tail slapping and quivering. With all of this, he'll just sit there.

With all of the snow we've had, water from the tap now tests about 75 ppm hardness and a pH of 6.9. My biggest problem now, the male doen't feel secure. He is frightened easily(has always been this way). I've been "challenging" him when he is out and he is very slowly becoming more assertive. Maybe I should explain what I mean by "challenging" him. When he is out, I move slowly towards him with my head, gently shaking it. If he gives even the slightest move forward, I back off. At this point, he'll move to the front of the glass if I approach, but if I reach up to put food in or do a water change, he'll hide until I move back.
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this is a great thread, i don't have any answers for you, just wishing you luck.....seems that your doing everything right for now.....time will tell but keep us posted.
 
I believe it is a compatability or water simulation issue. Alot of times it doesn't work out when trying to create it. Most all peeps can establish a pair of Lugs but never have a spawn. I don't know if you have read this article by Ian Tapp on his breeding X1's. It is not very long but gives his water params. He also only does 10% WC with no RO.
http://www.geocities.com/NapaValley/5491/orangepike.html

As for as his timidness put some larger Cichlids that can defend themselves better. (Larger than the RD's that you tried) This will also help to cement the pair bond.
Alot of times it will stop there insecurity/timidness.

Also I am not a fan of BareBottom setups. ( I know alot of peeps swear by them) This type of setup usually causes a mirroring/reflective affect causing some fish to be jumpy or skittish. JMO
GL
 
Those Xingu look great. I'm going to try and challenge mine like that.
 
ShadowStryder;1530290; said:
I believe it is a compatability or water simulation issue. Alot of times it doesn't work out when trying to create it. Most all peeps can establish a pair of Lugs but never have a spawn. I don't know if you have read this article by Ian Tapp on his breeding X1's. It is not very long but gives his water params. He also only does 10% WC with no RO.
http://www.geocities.com/NapaValley/5491/orangepike.html

As for as his timidness put some larger Cichlids that can defend themselves better. (Larger than the RD's that you tried) This will also help to cement the pair bond.
Alot of times it will stop there insecurity/timidness.

Also I am not a fan of BareBottom setups. ( I know alot of peeps swear by them) This type of setup usually causes a mirroring/reflective affect causing some fish to be jumpy or skittish. JMO
GL
Yeah, I've read that article, a few times. It just upsets me :). I would do smaller water changes but I feed them too much (these two alone eat 4 oz. of silversides and 8 oz. of krill every week).

I don't personally have anything sacrifical that I could add and the shops around here charge terrible prices for larger fish, ex. $40 for a 10" oscar, and an oscar wouldn't work obviously(I had to move my ruby albinos long ago).

I agree with not liking barebottoms. I didn't like disturbing them constantly by moving their wood snags to get pieces of krill and fish out. With a BB, that doesn't happen. I did add a small amount of gravel today, 1/4 - 1/2", as well as move all the wood into one large pile. We'll see what happens.
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Maybe your male prefers the company of other male XIs. If that pike equivelant of a butt ass naked tabledance dont get him all worked up, he may be living an alternative lifestyle........
 
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