*FX5/HAGEN CUSTOMERS

[krichardson]

Well thanks for pointing that out...I don't remember coming across that piece of information when I read the manual.

 

[F1 VET]

Well thanks for pointing that out...I don't remember coming across that piece of information when I read the manual.

Haha no problem man, it happens. Only reason I knew was cuz I saw another forum before I bought my fx5 and the guy thought his filter was busted.

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women?! pleeze. you're like one of my grandsons. I can't even visualize you thattaway, it's just wrong.
I forgot all about NLS.

you might wanna cut back on your jet fuel intake.

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?504763-Cheap-plants-less-nitrate!-POTHOS

 

[lp85253]

That because the filter auto purges after running for a couple minutes when u first plug it in, then it will turn off letting the bubbles escape for a few minutes then kick back on and every 24 hours it will turn off for a minute and purge the air again, this helps the filter to run more efficient by evacuating the trapped air, all in all very cool.

So every time u unplug it and plug it back in it will do the same thing, run for a few then turn off for a few.
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I have heard this more than once ...and would consider it good info...

 

[13razorbackfan]

I have heard this more than once ...and would consider it good info...

Yep...it is good info.

PS...the pump doesn't shut off 24hrs on the nose every day. It can be off by an hour or two both ways. I remember timing it when I first installed it. Sitting and waiting and nothing. Took about 1 hour the first time and swings back and forth.

 

[F1 VET]

My first attempt at a spray bar.

I wanted it to be powerful and not slow flow, there are 8x 1/4" holes that are 1/4" up and down every hole on a 5' 1" Id pvc pipe.

Just finished second coat:

3X 90degree elbows 1x 6" section of pvc 1x 3" cut section of stock intake tube to connect to vinyl hose 1x 5' spraybar section and 1x endcap:

Here's the intake which consists of a ribbed 90degree elbow and both intake and output have 1"id vinyl tubing:

Here's the tubing affixed with stainless steal clamps:

This is kind of a trial and error when it comes to flow and the spray bar, letting the paint dry atm and will install in a few days.

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Go S.Vettel #1 RB8 3X WDC!!!!!!!!!

women?! pleeze. you're like one of my grandsons. I can't even visualize you thattaway, it's just wrong.
I forgot all about NLS.

you might wanna cut back on your jet fuel intake.

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?504763-Cheap-plants-less-nitrate!-POTHOS

 

[13razorbackfan]

I have literally made dozens of spray bars for the FX5 for other people on another message board and one guy from youtube. I make mine a bit differently but overall should achieve the same effect. Just for reference I make mine out of 3/4" PVC and this is a rough example of a hole combination that gives very strong flow. Anywhere from 30-35 holes at 1/8" in size. Very strong flow. As a matter of fact the last person I sent one to had to drill the holes larger because it blew all the sand from the front of the tank. That spray bar had 26 holes at 13/64" in size.

I also make mine with another set of elbows and endcap on the other side to allow it to be hung on the aquarium. Here is the thread on another forum with a diagram on page 2.

http://www.cichlid-forum.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=248582

Here is a video of one of my spray bars:
[video=youtube;HJ29lXRgIpU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ29lXRgIpU[/video]

 

[F1 VET]

I have literally made dozens of spray bars for the FX5 for other people on another message board and one guy from youtube. I make mine a bit differently but overall should achieve the same effect. Just for reference I make mine out of 3/4" PVC and this is a rough example of a hole combination that gives very strong flow. Anywhere from 30-35 holes at 1/8" in size. Very strong flow. As a matter of fact the last person I sent one to had to drill the holes larger because it blew all the sand from the front of the tank. That spray bar had 26 holes at 13/64" in size.

I also make mine with another set of elbows and endcap on the other side to allow it to be hung on the aquarium. Here is the thread on another forum with a diagram on page 2.

http://www.cichlid-forum.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=248582

Here is a video of one of my spray bars:
[video=youtube;HJ29lXRgIpU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ29lXRgIpU[/video]

So a larger diameter spray bar will decrease flow? Allowing my 8 1/4" holes to not be over powered?

Your powerful one was about 1/7" and you had 26 that I equates to about 9x 1/4" holes but u used a smaller diameter pipe, irk I'm just hoping I got the combo right because I heard your supposed to let the krylon dry for awhile, however I used valspar plastic paint, same as fusion, think it'll work.

Cool vid man

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Go S.Vettel #1 RB8 3X WDC!!!!!!!!!

women?! pleeze. you're like one of my grandsons. I can't even visualize you thattaway, it's just wrong.
I forgot all about NLS.

you might wanna cut back on your jet fuel intake.

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?504763-Cheap-plants-less-nitrate!-POTHOS

 

[13razorbackfan]

So a larger diameter spray bar will decrease flow? Allowing my 8 1/4" holes to not be over powered?

Your powerful one was about 1/7" and you had 26 that I equates to about 9x 1/4" holes but u used a smaller diameter pipe, irk I'm just hoping I got the combo right because I heard your supposed to let the krylon dry for awhile, however I used valspar plastic paint, same as fusion, think it'll work.

Cool vid man

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No...it shouldn't decrease the flow but a 3/4" PVC pipe will allow your 1" hose to fit on very snug...I mean very snug with some elbow grease and a bit of hot water. I also use two hose clamps on it to be sure but honestly not really needed as once the hose cools it becomes so tight on the PVC you have to cut it off. The holes I made on the last one were 13/64" which is I believe 2 sizes away from 1/4" and total of 26 but remember that is over a 26" span. Yours will likely create more pressure BUT it is over a 60" span. So you will likely have good and very strong flow out those holes but spread apart 6.5". If you make a bit smaller holes and make more of them the current will still be really strong but it will be more evenly spread out.

It really is all about hole size and quantity of holes. I found that more, smaller holes creates more pressure and more current. It also will have more pressure at the far end of the spray bar as well meaning a bit more water will come out the far holes than the holes closest the intake.

I made mine so that I can swap out spary bars(the bar with the holes not including the 90 degree elbows) and leave the elbows hanging on the tank. I have several spray bars with different hole configurations. PVC is so cheap you can buy 10' sticks for a couple dollars and try different ones to see what you like the best. Then spray paint last as it is kind of expensive to paint multiple spray bars.

If I were making a 5' spray bar I would have a total of 35 holes at 1/8" in size and spaced roughly 1.71" apart. I would use that as a baseline to find what worked best. Like you mentioned earlier it really is trial and error depending on what each person wants. I would be curious how yours turns out with that hole combination.

Let me know how it turns out. Bump this thread. Would LOVE to see a video of it up and running. I wait 24hrs after paint dries to install.

PS...you didn't cement the elbows the spray bar sits it did you? You want to make sure you can rotate it up or down and you can swap it out with other spray bars. Just a heads up.

 

[F1 VET]

No...it shouldn't decrease the flow but a 3/4" PVC pipe will allow your 1" hose to fit on very snug...I mean very snug with some elbow grease and a bit of hot water. I also use two hose clamps on it to be sure but honestly not really needed as once the hose cools it becomes so tight on the PVC you have to cut it off. The holes I made on the last one were 13/64" which is I believe 2 sizes away from 1/4" and total of 26 but remember that is over a 26" span. Yours will likely create more pressure BUT it is over a 60" span. So you will likely have good and very strong flow out those holes but spread apart 6.5". If you make a bit smaller holes and make more of them the current will still be really strong but it will be more evenly spread out.

It really is all about hole size and quantity of holes. I found that more, smaller holes creates more pressure and more current. It also will have more pressure at the far end of the spray bar as well meaning a bit more water will come out the far holes than the holes closest the intake.

I made mine so that I can swap out spary bars(the bar with the holes not including the 90 degree elbows) and leave the elbows hanging on the tank. I have several spray bars with different hole configurations. PVC is so cheap you can buy 10' sticks for a couple dollars and try different ones to see what you like the best. Then spray paint last as it is kind of expensive to paint multiple spray bars.

If I were making a 5' spray bar I would have a total of 35 holes at 1/8" in size and spaced roughly 1.71" apart. I would use that as a baseline to find what worked best. Like you mentioned earlier it really is trial and error depending on what each person wants. I would be curious how yours turns out with that hole combination.

Let me know how it turns out. Bump this thread. Would LOVE to see a video of it up and running. I wait 24hrs after paint dries to install.

PS...you didn't cement the elbows the spray bar sits it did you? You want to make sure you can rotate it up or down and you can swap it out with other spray bars. Just a heads up.

Yes I cemented all fitting expect where the vinyl will attach to the pvc. I angled it just right or so I think and that's also why I made each hole 1/4" up and down as it goes down the bar. I wish I would have thought about not cementing it first! But oh well my landscape company has loads of pvc as we do irrigation so i didn't pay a dime for it besides the paint!

Appreciate the advice and I can't wait to install it, my piranhas are very skiddish when I put stuff in the tank so i want to do it once and be done!




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Go S.Vettel #1 RB8 3X WDC!!!!!!!!!

women?! pleeze. you're like one of my grandsons. I can't even visualize you thattaway, it's just wrong.
I forgot all about NLS.

you might wanna cut back on your jet fuel intake.

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?504763-Cheap-plants-less-nitrate!-POTHOS

 

[njmduff]

Bought a new AC70 that rattled and was really loud. Returned it and got a new AC110 instead, which was been fine and much quieter. Been running a few months without any issue.