Fx5 Minimum Advertised Price

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This action on the part of Hagen is an obvious response to its many store-based retailers who are screaming bloody murder about the vast amount of business that they are losing to the web-based sellers. It's simple, the web sellers do not have any overhead, so they can afford to sell the same product for much less. I have a cirlce of retailers that I deal with frequently and they all tell me the same thing. IMO, this demand by Hagen is nothing more than an experiment and is doomed to fail. First, the markup on aquarium equipment, etc., by retailers is often astronomical....we've all seen it. If a guy wants to open an aquarium store in a strip mall and has to pay an exorbitant rent, I sympathize with him but it's his decision. If he can't compete with a web-based outfit, then he either has to lower his prices, improve his service or admit defeat. Finally, as far as "service" per se, I'm not sure that these stores really "stand behind" the stuff they sell to the extent that they would have us believe. Certainly, I have seen a great deal of reluctance to replace equipment, etc. This reminds me of the government attemting to protect the US auto industry from Japanese competition during the 70s....not precisely the same thing, but close enough to merit consideration. That failed too. The loser here is the customer.
 
jdryden;1485224; said:
I just got off of the phone with Hagens internal reps at the corporate level. The advertised price DOES NOT restrict the price the item is sold at. It is ONLY THE ADVERTISED PRICE that it restricts. Thsi is to provide a even playing ground amongst dealers. Just thougth everyone might want to know. I wanted to get to the bottom of it b/c me and my wife are considering opening a reptile store in the future.

Thanks for making that call, way more effort than I wanted to put into it.

Thanks to you too Johnptc I had a feeling you had experience with the topic...


New question. If what was posted earlier about the retailers unit price is true, $150 a piece, than how is the MAP of $300 justified? I understand the economics of running a business, overhead, risk and such.... but a 100% markup on dry goods?
 
why pay £150 for an FX5 when you can get an Eheim 2080 for £165? It might have been worth it when ebay had FX5s for about £95, but cant find them under £140 delivered even on there now..
 
I think Hagen should have a MAXIMUM ADVERTISED PRICE too then if they are going to have a minimum advertised price.

Why should I or anyone pay 400 for a FX5 when I can get one from Johnptc for 200 shipped. Thats a saving of 200!!!
 
mkman;1486614; said:
I think Hagen should have a MAXIMUM ADVERTISED PRICE too then if they are going to have a minimum advertised price.

Why should I or anyone pay 400 for a FX5 when I can get one from Johnptc for 200 shipped. Thats a saving of 200!!!

Once again whatever the market will bare, if it's $400 don't buy one...It also would probably put that retailer out of business for not being competitive....
 
IITUFFTOBEATII;1483614; said:
Not too long ago I purchased a FX5 of of ebay and payed less than $180 delivered to my door. I contacted the ebay seller recently to see if I could purchase another and received this reply:

Effective January 1st, 2008 Monster Pets will not be carrying any Fluval/Laguna products. This is due to Hagen {the manufacturer} demanding that we sell their products for a set price. They are calling this “MAP” pricing {minimum advertised price}. We call it price fixing and refuse to be part of it. Anyone who does not comply with their demands is cut off of from receiving Hagen products. Please feel free to call Marty Lee, the national sales manager of Hagen with any questions or concerns. I apologize to our customers who have been inconvenienced.



Thanks again for your understanding.

Tom @ Monster Pets

215-336-9000



Rolf C. Hagen Corp.

305 Forbes Blvd.

Mansfield, MA 02048

1-800-225-2700

Thoughts? Will this be effecting any of the members/vendors who are selling these products here?
yep told me the same thing. however fluval had great customer service and replaced the part and gave me a new lid n tube free. as far as this price fixing its just sad. they are right on the legal boundary of price fixing though.
 
IITUFFTOBEATII;1483614; said:
Not too long ago I purchased a FX5 of of ebay and payed less than $180 delivered to my door. I contacted the ebay seller recently to see if I could purchase another and received this reply:

Effective January 1st, 2008 Monster Pets will not be carrying any Fluval/Laguna products. This is due to Hagen {the manufacturer} demanding that we sell their products for a set price. They are calling this “MAP” pricing {minimum advertised price}. We call it price fixing and refuse to be part of it. Anyone who does not comply with their demands is cut off of from receiving Hagen products. Please feel free to call Marty Lee, the national sales manager of Hagen with any questions or concerns. I apologize to our customers who have been inconvenienced.



Thanks again for your understanding.

Tom @ Monster Pets

215-336-9000



Rolf C. Hagen Corp.

305 Forbes Blvd.

Mansfield, MA 02048

1-800-225-2700

Thoughts? Will this be effecting any of the members/vendors who are selling these products here?

After reading all the threads it must be a miss understanding of MAP by Monster Pets as they are stating that Hagen is trying to fix their sell price. As outlined in the orginal post.:nilly:
 
I understand why they are doing this, so that retailers that put these on Ebay can't have a low ball starting point that hoses their local retailers. The local guys that take on inventory and parts, and there is an associated cost for them. Someone could sell them for 1$, but not on Ebay. You would have to start at the MAP if you're selling on Ebay....
 
johnptc;1491125; said:
its not price fixing...... its controlling the advertised price

not the final sale price

i dont really see how it matters one way or another.....the dealer can sell it for $1 if they want

Exactly!:iagree:
 
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