gator gar vs. stingray

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did a big water change yesterday the rays are very stressed and are breathing heavy found one motoro doing the old floating at the top of the water trick even with airstones on 24/7 so I have my powerheads blasting the surface now and lowered my water level seem to be getting better....

and I have 60 pounds of sand in my tank, a 125 gallon which is about 2" give or take. I am not 100% that the gar took a stab at the ray but I am confident. It may have happened that the ray freaked going up the wall like he does seeing the huge gar, freaked and swam away frankticlly getting caught on something who knows.
 
studd muffin;4798588; said:
Yea I know, but its just odd a gar would go down for a ray. When I still had my gar he stayed in all regions of the tank especially on top though.
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lol. all gars i have had would come down and get food. they learned that i feed my rays more. so they let the rays find the food then go try an steal it. most bite or accidental. but still can be damaging., if u have gar with ur rays what i did was, drop a big pise of fish in. get the gar busy easting it then feed rays. just always keep gar eating while u feed rays. but still risky
 
check ur ammonia... with ur sand being that deep u might have toxic gas pockets building up, and could end up fatal to ur rays bud.... might take some of the sand out...
 
also im curious on why you lowered your water level? and i know you might have already said something in another thread but are you treating your water before putting it in? plus how about a full tank shot because im not sure of much that would do that damage just from freaking out. all sharp objects or anything you think could do something like that should be removed.
 
jeffers;4800140; said:
also im curious on why you lowered your water level
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If your water level is too high, there isn't much space for the water to do it's gas exchange, especially when you have a hood or cover over top that completely encloses your tank. If that was the case, then lowering your water level would allow for more oxygen exchange.
 
yea that is exactly why I did it. I have a hood obv because of my gator gar he's jumped out just when I open it to feed him lol. But yes I am thinking of taking out like 20 pounds because although I move the sand around almost daily as do the rays I know a big pocket of ammonia came come out of nowhere. I do manually pick up ray/gar poop as soon as I see it but sometimes I come home to it so it may sit in there for a couple hours.
 
oh and to answer the other question...

I have a regular 125 gallon and all I have in it is my powerheads on opposite walls, fluval fx5 inlet and output, fluval e300 heater and lines for my airstones. the day I brought the gar home I just sat there for literally hours watching to make sure it would be okay for the time being and the first contact between the injured ray (more curiuos and active one) and gar the gar could not care less but the ray flipped and went flying up the front of the glass, side of the tank then behind the fluval intake tubing and got stuck and hit the heater when he came out so I think he may have done that again and possilbly cut himself doing that? who knows. the cut just does not look like as if the gar bite him.
 
good questions scott but i do believe the fluval e300 has guards built around it if its the fluval im thinking of. but jeremy you said it from the start and it sounds about right. is that your gar did get comfy and got territorial. that is a larger gar for those small rays. it just dosent look like a spook tear to me. i could be wrong but if it was the gar i dont think you want to take that chance again either way
 
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