Geophagus ID???

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I accidentally attached a second image, but the first one is of my abalios...
 
Accident or not that Balzanii is one of the nicer looking ones I have seen, he stole the thread haha
 
Thanks everyone for the help!!

Dan F- those are some nice looking fish, I hope my abalios looks as nice as yours one day
 
Dan F said:
It does look a lot like my abalios (purchased as Surinamensis).

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your abalios looks a lot like my, what are supposed to be, wild caught surinamensis... is there a chart somewhere that shows the identifying characteristics for these species, would you guys mind telling me what differentiates a suri from an abalios?
 
I was told that abailios have a larger lateral spot and stripes/spots in the caudal fins...where altifrons has small lateral spot and spots only in the caudal
 
oh ok but what about true suris?
 
Sarah88 said:
your abalios looks a lot like my, what are supposed to be, wild caught surinamensis... is there a chart somewhere that shows the identifying characteristics for these species, would you guys mind telling me what differentiates a suri from an abalios?
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The main characteristic to differentiate the two is that G. abalios has the first two lateral bands (on the forehead behind the gill plate) bisect and look as though they are paired (as seen in G. sp. "Tapajós Orange Head"). Also G. abalios’ tail is striped where as surinamensis is finely spotted (like altifrons). Both surinamensis and abalios are deeper bodied fish and have a prominent lateral spot, which separates them from altifrons who’s spot is 4 scales or less. Most of this and other species info I’ve collected is from this website over the last couple of years from members like: Darth Pike, Ed Burress, JK47, and countless others,

But probably the easy way to see if yours are surinamensis is to see where you bought yours from. Surinamensis are extremely rare and would cost a pretty penny. Their distribution is small and from an area that fish are not collected from. There used to be an article saying all this but I lost it when my computer crashed….hopefully someone can post the article. Cheers!
 
oh ok thanks so much for the info, i do believe mine are suris, i cant see the bands very easily since they usually show up more when they are stressed but they look like they join together in a y-ish shape but their caudal fins are definitely spotted and not striped like the abalios Dan F posted, i got them from John (snookn21) off of aquabid, i cant remember what the collection location was for these guys but as far as i know John does good business, maybe i will start a thread of my own with some new pics if i can get them,

Sorry OP for hijacking your thread
 
Sarah88 said:
oh ok thanks so much for the info, i do believe mine are suris, i cant see the bands very easily since they usually show up more when they are stressed but they look like they join together in a y-ish shape but their caudal fins are definitely spotted and not striped like the abalios Dan F posted, i got them from John (snookn21) off of aquabid, i cant remember what the collection location was for these guys but as far as i know John does good business, maybe i will start a thread of my own with some new pics if i can get them,

Sorry OP for hijacking your thread
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Please do start a thread! I would love to see them. John is a great guy/good vendor. He should be able to tell you collection info if you ask him.

OP - there is no such thing as an ugle g. abalios (unless misteated) so in a couple of months yours should color up like Dan's in no time.
 
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