Geophagus sp. Xbreeding

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FishFreak95;4295415; said:
And whats wrong with hybrids ...

I could answer that, but I would surely get banned from this website and turn this thread into something very nasty, so I shall refrain.
 
dogofwar;4296147; said:
I know that geo brasiliensis will breed with convicts and the like...and I'm sure other brasiliensis types (whether currently described as different species or variants)...

Matt

That's interesting and I forgot about the other "Geophagus" :D

It appears that "Geophagus" in fact include three genera (Lopez-Fernandez et al., 2005):

1. The "surinamensis type" such as altifrons, abalios, dicrozoster, surinamensis etc.

2. The "brasiliensis complex", which are more closely related to rams and perhaps some pikes.

3. The "steindachneri complex", which are more closely related to Gymnogeophagus.

I was thinking 1 only...no experience with 2 or 3.
 
I thought i saw some where on here, maybe an old vender or something, but it was a geophagus hybrid, it was only altifron and some other type of geo. Mind you this was a while back. I like flowerhorns and stuff like that, but i wouldn't want hybrid geos, i love the color in geos, plus ID would be so much harder.
 
FishFreak95;4295415; said:
And whats wrong with hybrids if you keep them to your self or properly label them?

How about we wait for all species to be properly labeled/described by science before we smack 'ma nature' in the face with a new one, "labeled" or not... That seems more fun, I'll do that. :D
 
there is no way a Geo Brasiliensis can breed with a Convict, SA Cichlids do not breed with CA cichlids, they are completley different.
 
From edition 16 of the American Cichlids Association's Buntbarche Bulletin:

"I've seen many examples of​
Cichlasomas cross breeding within the genus,
but was rather startled to hear of a cross between a regular "convict" and a
G.
brasiliensis
! I've seen the photographic proof, too, the pair with eggs and with fry.
The same people announced a successful cross between a "convict" and a
C.
friedrichsthali
. My reaction to this was, "Where in the world did they get that
species?" I've wanted that one for years! Thanks to Jim Malcolm for sending me

this interesting bit."

- ACA Founder Guy Jordan

glenbo;4299537; said:
there is no way a Geo Brasiliensis can breed with a Convict, SA Cichlids do not breed with CA cichlids, they are completley different.
 
...so should we have labeled and described every plant on the planet before we created the different varieties of apples, oranges and other fruits that fill our supermarkets? How about roses?

Matt

JK47;4297335; said:
How about we wait for all species to be properly labeled/described by science before we smack 'ma nature' in the face with a new one, "labeled" or not... That seems more fun, I'll do that. :D
 
dogofwar;4299646; said:
...so should we have labeled and described every plant on the planet before we created the different varieties of apples, oranges and other fruits that fill our supermarkets? How about roses?

Matt

For many people, there is a large differance in crossing nonintelligent species (plants, livebearers) and those with high levels of intelligence (cichlids, humans). Perhaps a doublestandard, but it's there none the less.
 
darth pike;4299669; said:
For many people, there is a large differance in crossing nonintelligent species (plants, livebearers) and those with high levels of intelligence (cichlids, humans). Perhaps a doublestandard, but it's there none the less.
Why are you classifying live-bearers as unintelligent? They may not be that smart for a fish but they had enough brain power to recognize me as there feeder when I kept them. I wouls classify them as low intelligence. and I wouldn't put a cichlid in the same category as a human but they are very intelligent as a fish. As far as fish go there is no difference between hybridizing cichlids or live-bearers IMO.
 
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