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Tequila;1472192; said:
Dude are you serious?. you feed your GG Sausages, breakfast sausages? or what? Now I know why you do these unbelievable water changes and have all this money invested in Canister and or Power Filters. Wow those sausages must put a unbelievable amount of oil in the water. Try an remember this are fish not miniature people or dogs we're taking care of here.

Yes, breakfast sausages and before the diet police start come and get me let me explain.

George's diet is the following:

99.8% of the time he eats lettuce, bananas , pellets, soft cheese and flake.

This all goes back to a post ages ago from Matt, stating that his fish eats all veggies left over from his food to cut down on his food bill. Mr gussy is a vegetarian, i don't if this is something that Matt feels is the right thing do as in the wild they are 99% veggie or if he's one of these people who is a veggie to and likes to pass that down to his pets/fish too(Matt no offense meant if this is not the case, but there are people who do this). Either way it's his choice and as i am going to make my motto, if the fish are happy then so am I.

The 0.2% of the time when his diet is not the above he will get a small bit of left over chicken, steak, pork, bacon or in this case cold sausage. By a small bit I mean if an average sausage is say 4' long I would chop about a sixth of this into small pellet size as 'treats' if you like. This normal happens the day before a water change so there is no waste left to hang around the tank.

I'm not sure where I've given you the idea that I do massive water changes, the tank is 115usg and I change 25% once a week. Yes I have a canister filter as well as the standard internal one which increases the filtration to about 2.5 times that of the internal filter alone. I wasn't aware that you could have too much filtration, it's certainly no where near excessive.

I'm by know way advertising this as a full on feeding idea for gg's, like you said if I only only fed these things all the time things would get really messy really quickly and wouldn't be good for the fish as you would have to do massive changes just to try and keep a remotely safe environment.
 
Yanbbrox;1473689; said:
Yes, breakfast sausages and before the diet police start come and get me let me explain.

George's diet is the following:

99.8% of the time he eats lettuce, bananas , pellets, soft cheese and flake.

This all goes back to a post ages ago from Matt, stating that his fish eats all veggies left over from his food to cut down on his food bill. Mr gussy is a vegetarian, i don't if this is something that Matt feels is the right thing do as in the wild they are 99% veggie or if he's one of these people who is a veggie to and likes to pass that down to his pets/fish too(Matt no offense meant if this is not the case, but there are people who do this). Either way it's his choice and as i am going to make my motto, if the fish are happy then so am I.

The 0.2% of the time when his diet is not the above he will get a small bit of left over chicken, steak, pork, bacon or in this case cold sausage. By a small bit I mean if an average sausage is say 4' long I would chop about a sixth of this into small pellet size as 'treats' if you like. This normal happens the day before a water change so there is no waste left to hang around the tank.

I'm not sure where I've given you the idea that I do massive water changes, the tank is 115usg and I change 25% once a week. Yes I have a canister filter as well as the standard internal one which increases the filtration to about 2.5 times that of the internal filter alone. I wasn't aware that you could have too much filtration, it's certainly no where near excessive.

I'm by know way advertising this as a full on feeding idea for gg's, like you said if I only only fed these things all the time things would get really messy really quickly and wouldn't be good for the fish as you would have to do massive changes just to try and keep a remotely safe environment.

As my friendly American translator has pointed out a 4' sausage would be quite impressive, I meant 4'' apparently

Thank Tequlia ;)
 
Here is my 'treat' feeding of george, notice he's not the only veggie who enjoys a bit of meat, pardon the pun.

It was a longer video but the wife started moaning about traffic and things so I had to shorten and dub it. Plus his royal gouraminess decided he wanted to not show off for the camera and when he realized he was being filmed stopped feeding and spat the food out and went in a mood.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHsV0jwm77o

I've had 27 views on one video, I hope it was mfk'ers
 
Yanbbrox;1473689; said:
Yes, breakfast sausages and before the diet police start come and get me let me explain.

George's diet is the following:

99.8% of the time he eats lettuce, bananas , pellets, soft cheese and flake.

This all goes back to a post ages ago from Matt, stating that his fish eats all veggies left over from his food to cut down on his food bill. Mr gussy is a vegetarian, i don't if this is something that Matt feels is the right thing do as in the wild they are 99% veggie or if he's one of these people who is a veggie to and likes to pass that down to his pets/fish too(Matt no offense meant if this is not the case, but there are people who do this). Either way it's his choice and as i am going to make my motto, if the fish are happy then so am I.

The 0.2% of the time when his diet is not the above he will get a small bit of left over chicken, steak, pork, bacon or in this case cold sausage. By a small bit I mean if an average sausage is say 4' long I would chop about a sixth of this into small pellet size as 'treats' if you like. This normal happens the day before a water change so there is no waste left to hang around the tank.

I'm not sure where I've given you the idea that I do massive water changes, the tank is 115usg and I change 25% once a week. Yes I have a canister filter as well as the standard internal one which increases the filtration to about 2.5 times that of the internal filter alone. I wasn't aware that you could have too much filtration, it's certainly no where near excessive.

I'm by know way advertising this as a full on feeding idea for gg's, like you said if I only only fed these things all the time things would get really messy really quickly and wouldn't be good for the fish as you would have to do massive changes just to try and keep a remotely safe environment.


Dude this is what I'm saying, I have a 180G tank and I do one!, water change per month approx 25% of the tank, not four 25% water changes per month. In the UK water must be FREE or something close to that, about a 50G water change each month. I have really one filter that runs through a canister filter that contains only bio-balls, I have in the last two plus yrs NEVER changed or cleaned this filter or opened it for that matter. So again I ask what is in this great 220G filter?????
 
Tequila;1475214; said:
Dude this is what I'm saying, I have a 180G tank and I do one!, water change per month approx 25% of the tank, not four 25% water changes per month. In the UK water must be FREE or something close to that, about a 50G water change each month. I have really one filter that runs through a canister filter that contains only bio-balls, I have in the last two plus yrs NEVER changed or cleaned this filter or opened it for that matter. So again I ask what is in this great 220G filter?????

Where did i say I've got a 220g filter? I basing the 2.5 times increase on the standard internal filter on flow rate through put for both. The tank comes with the following internal filter as standard:

http://www.juwel-aquarium.de/en/filter_full.htm

The canister filter is here, I bought it because if I remember rightly I got a second one cheap as I was buying one for the discus tank at the time anyway. It's the 1200:

http://www.tetra-fish.co.uk/tetratec/externalfilters.html

I usually rinse through both filters alternately every 6 months or so in used tank water.

The water change takes about 15 minutes so it's hardly a big task. The only pain is elevatoring(;)) the water about. Had to get that in, keeping up international relations and all :ROFL:

Water is not free although it kind off used to be about 20 years ago when you just paid a flat fee before the water meter money eater was invented. With the amount of water I waste producing RO for the disucs this can't really be measured but roughly $90 a month but a huge proportion of this is down to the ro unit.

Bruce, how much do you change and roughly when? Tequila's got me paranoid about it all now
 
Yanbbrox;1476601; said:
Where did i say I've got a 220g filter? I basing the 2.5 times increase on the standard internal filter on flow rate through put for both. The tank comes with the following internal filter as standard:

http://www.juwel-aquarium.de/en/filter_full.htm

The canister filter is here, I bought it because if I remember rightly I got a second one cheap as I was buying one for the discus tank at the time anyway. It's the 1200:

http://www.tetra-fish.co.uk/tetratec/externalfilters.html

I usually rinse through both filters alternately every 6 months or so in used tank water.

The water change takes about 15 minutes so it's hardly a big task. The only pain is elevatoring(;)) the water about. Had to get that in, keeping up international relations and all :ROFL:

Water is not free although it kind off used to be about 20 years ago when you just paid a flat fee before the water meter money eater was invented. With the amount of water I waste producing RO for the disucs this can't really be measured but roughly $90 a month but a huge proportion of this is down to the ro unit.

Bruce, how much do you change and roughly when? Tequila's got me paranoid about it all now

Yes my spelling blows, that and my keyboard only has about 9 keys that you can make out the letters on. So you have lifting problems with your water changes, hmmmm.;)

Wow you use a RO system for your Discus, is the water there that dirty? Or are you breeding high end Discu?, like $150~$350 Discu, that you need a RO system and de-chlorinating the water with chems and what not.

I got you paranoid about what?
 
Tequila;1481135; said:
Yes my spelling blows, that and my keyboard only has about 9 keys that you can make out the letters on. So you have lifting problems with your water changes, hmmmm.;)

Wow you use a RO system for your Discus, is the water there that dirty? Or are you breeding high end Discu?, like $150~$350 Discu, that you need a RO system and de-chlorinating the water with chems and what not.

I got you paranoid about what?

Yes, the ph is 7.8 to 8.1 and full of lime. Not breeding, just trying maintaining stable water parameters. I had all sorts of problems in the past months with that tank after my pigeon blood died for no reason. As we are way off topic there are threads on the discus board all about it.

My water changing habits!

That canister filter of yours much be doing an great job if you only change once a month, I'm guessing you have no nitrate problems with the gg's?
 
Yanbbrox;1481216; said:
Yes, the ph is 7.8 to 8.1 and full of lime. Not breeding, just trying maintaining stable water parameters. I had all sorts of problems in the past months with that tank after my pigeon blood died for no reason. As we are way off topic there are threads on the discus board all about it.

My water changing habits!

That canister filter of yours much be doing an great job if you only change once a month, I'm guessing you have no nitrate problems with the gg's?

Never had a Nitrate problem or Ammonia.
 
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