Giant Sea Turtle Slaughtered In Gaza * GRAPHIC WARNING *

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dominicolas;2609532; said:
It's really not that bad, they weren't violent or cruel. Just pumped that they got a huge turtle.

dominicolas;2609572; said:
They cut it's throat, you don't even see blood. How would you kill a turtle? There's nothing unnecessary in what they did. Killing an animal is never delightful, but this one was not particularly inhumane. Maybe I've just got a more of a stomach for stuff like this, perhaps it was being raised in Texas, I don't know.

I can stomach just fine. Especially if it's a pig or deer or something but I just have always really loved sea turtles for some reason so I don't want to see it. :(
 
pdbrady;2609749; said:
It's not a debate of should you kill baby or adult. It's the fact that they're being taken at all. I understand the people and what they did. You have to provide for your family. That is the true domino affect. If those people were not so needy, they wouldn't have taken it (hopefully anyway).


I understand that, I was responding to Gr8's post that he would prefer baby turtles were killed rather than an adult.

Also keep in mind I was not debating on behalf of the idea that it's preferable for an adult turtle to be killed, your idea is the same as mine, you seem to not have understood that part of my post.
 
Cohazard;2609758; said:
I understand that, I was responding to Gr8's post that he would prefer baby turtles were killed rather than an adult.

Also keep in mind I was not debating on behalf of the idea that it's preferable for an adult turtle to be killed, your idea is the same as mine, you seem to not have understood that part of my post.

I'm kind of caught in the middle of right and wrong on this one, so it may be hard to figure out what I'm really saying. I agree, but disagree, if that makes any since at all. :nilly:
 
I'm sure the fishermen would have much rather caught an adult than a little baby one. How many people would a little baby one feed.
 
Ok, I should not have used babie turtles as examples. I should have just said a 50 year old turtle vs a 150 yeaqr old turtle. My point was that a certain artificail value has been created because of peoples personal affection towards sea turtles, and their being impressed by it's age. People just get very offended when someone kills something they find cute, majestic, etc and they loose sight of the fact that death and killing for is simply a necessary part of life.
 
pdbrady;2609771; said:
I'm kind of caught in the middle of right and wrong on this one, so it may be hard to figure out what I'm really saying. I agree, but disagree, if that makes any since at all. :nilly:

agreed ^ :confused:
:ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:
 
pdbrady;2609771; said:
I'm kind of caught in the middle of right and wrong on this one, so it may be hard to figure out what I'm really saying. I agree, but disagree, if that makes any since at all. :nilly:


Perhaps that is because the concept of 'right' and 'wrong' are not always black and white as we would like them to be.

Oh, and agreeing and disagreeing at the same time makes no sense at all unless you clarify :ROFL:

pdbrady said:
I do have to point out that the guy said they had very tasty meat. Thinking more about it, that doesn't sound quite so needy, but maybe using that as a good excuse......??

Sorry I missed this point earlier, but I do have thoughts on it.

Suggesting they were being deceptive is not too far of a stretch, which is why I earlier asked someone else what they felt were (if any) the correlations between the cultural and economical implications of this particular kill, and poaching. That post was deleted in the clean-up though.

As the fishermen seemed knowledgeable on the value of the turtle and what it could be sold for, I'm sure their nets have been destroyed in the past by a turtle, and way back when it happened the first time, they learned the value of the by catch, or perhaps the knowledge has been passed down for generations (which would tie into the home remedy of turtle parts curing respiratory discomfort).



deangelo said:
Thats pretty f*&^% up...well they say man is a virus, it destroys everything around it

Did you quote that from Agent Smith? :ROFL:
 
dominicolas;2609800; said:
Ok, I should not have used babie turtles as examples. I should have just said a 50 year old turtle vs a 150 yeaqr old turtle. My point was that a certain artificail value has been created because of peoples personal affection towards sea turtles, and their being impressed by it's age. People just get very offended when someone kills something they find cute, majestic, etc and they loose sight of the fact that death and killing for is simply a necessary part of life.

Dude, it has nothing to do with cute or young or old. They are ENDANGERED. Once they're gone, they don't come back. Just like Deangelo said, we as humans think we have the right to just kill anything we want. Eventually it will come back to bite us in the ass. Not in our lifetime, but if it's not controlled, it will happen. The death and killing you speak of would not be an issue if the human race weren't so completely uncontrolled in terms of population growth. The more we grow, the more we kill.
 
hmoobvwj;2608058; said:
WTF....Gosh what the hell is wrong with those people.....Sad to see such an endangered species getting killed.... :(

thats what happens when theres poverty man
it sucks
 
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