Going to buy a varanid

[coura]

Yeah, Coura basically just finished the story. And I love the new avatar, whats in it?

The new and only avatar (before I was really old school) its a adult male indonesian giant sailfin dragon (Hydrosaurus amboinensis) one of my dream lizards. Will try to get some one day but Im afraid its going to be a futile and hope less serch

 

[loconorc]

when you do go back to monitors, look into savannas as a beginner too. they dont get to large. if you are looking for a little bit bigger go with a black or white throat monitor.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and here and say BAD IDEA.

Savs can be just as horrible a beginner monitor. They still reach lengths of 4-5 feet and require a only a slightly smaller enclosure than a water. They are imported by the millions yearly, and less than 1% make it to a healthy adulthood. Not to say a savannah can't make a decent pet with a lot of work, but it's not a good idea. I've had bad experiences with keeping them myself, and it was'nt all its cracked up to be.

By the way, if you ever come across 'kaffir2' aka 'danceswithsavs' on the internet, stay away!

But anyway, good luck with the bearded/water dragon!

 

[coura]

I'm gonna go out on a limb and here and say BAD IDEA.

Savs can be just as horrible a beginner monitor. They still reach lengths of 4-5 feet and require a only a slightly smaller enclosure than a water. They are imported by the millions yearly, and less than 1% make it to a healthy adulthood. Not to say a savannah can't make a decent pet with a lot of work, but it's not a good idea. I've had bad experiences with keeping them myself, and it was'nt all its cracked up to be.

By the way, if you ever come across 'kaffir2' aka 'danceswithsavs' on the internet, stay away!

But anyway, good luck with the bearded/water dragon!

That is why we must only purchase captive breds A friend of mine made a really big trip in order to get a captive bred savy and that lizard (wich is now a full grown female) is the tamest monitor Ive ever seen. She just melts in your hands (but shes also got is moments of bad mood of corse) Great lizard And yes stay way from thouse sikos

 

[phantomsblah]

I'm gonna go out on a limb and here and say BAD IDEA.

Savs can be just as horrible a beginner monitor. They still reach lengths of 4-5 feet and require a only a slightly smaller enclosure than a water. They are imported by the millions yearly, and less than 1% make it to a healthy adulthood. Not to say a savannah can't make a decent pet with a lot of work, but it's not a good idea. I've had bad experiences with keeping them myself, and it was'nt all its cracked up to be.

By the way, if you ever come across 'kaffir2' aka 'danceswithsavs' on the internet, stay away!

But anyway, good luck with the bearded/water dragon!

most savs are gonna stay in the 3ft range to maybe 4 ft. also, i dont think that phantoms was saying go out and get this for a first reptile but merely suggesting these after he has gotten his bearded and/or water dragon. the poster seems smart enough to not jump into monitors and start small. very smart indeed. i personally think after he has had those for a while and he wants a beginner monitor with some size like he talked about in the first post of the thread then the sav and albigs would be suitable. they dont require the water and humidity of a water. care is pretty simple. just need a good size enclosure. a sav could do well in a 4 x4x8 (t,w,l). the albigs are gonna get 4-6 foot and would need something bigger.

 

[Red tail catking]

One of those lizards would be so sweet to own.

 

[phantomsblah]

i should have said the albigs would be in the 5-7 foot range.

 

[varanio]

There has been alot said that I think doesnt need to be repeated, but I however think that varanids dont make hard captives at all if you know what exactly it is that you are looking for a reptile pet. Now from the description the original thread starter gave, varanids are not the right reptile pet for him, if and when he learns to understand that varanids will never be like a bearded dragon. Theyre not lap pets, they are pets to enjoy in observation.

 

[beastruler]

I never meant to have one as a lap pet. I meant one that would be calm and be able to be handled without gloves or a muzzle. When I get a varanid (if ever) it will most likely be a sav or mangrove. They can be handled to a degree and are not overly aggressive if raised properly.
I might be new into the world of herps, but I will never expect nature to bow to me. I respect and love it and only wish to be a participant.

 

[varanio]

I never meant to have one as a lap pet. I meant one that would be calm and be able to be handled without gloves or a muzzle. When I get a varanid (if ever) it will most likely be a sav or mangrove. They can be handled to a degree and are not overly aggressive if raised properly.
I might be new into the world of herps, but I will never expect nature to bow to me. I respect and love it and only wish to be a participant.

Thats the right mentality to have, but you will always need gloves with a full grown varanid, they will tear your skin apart. Mangroves are calm, but it varies from individual to individual, if and when you decide to get a monitor remember that the monitor will come around to trust you on its terms. Force handling should be minimized or eliminated from all interactions.

 

[beastruler]

I guess I'll have to work extra hard if I get a monitor. As long as it could be safely handled I'd be content. They're just such beautiful creatures.