Goonch ID

[Charney]

Goonch ID? Bought about a year ago at maybe 3 inches. Now he is 8 inches. Seller thought possibly a dwarf but i bought it knowing that was unlikely

 

[Fishman Dave]

Despite the slight kink in the dorsal that usually to may screams bagarius bagarius I am gonna say yarrelli (in the old naming convention). Round eyes, pectorals not too heavily upturned, more grey than rusty.

 

[Charney]

Despite the slight kink in the dorsal that usually to may screams bagarius bagarius I am gonna say yarrelli (in the old naming convention). Round eyes, pectorals not too heavily upturned, more grey than rusty.

Thank you. What is the typical growth rate?

 

[Fishman Dave]

Hard one to answer. Very few people have grown Goonch beyond 2ft. Slow growing if you compare to something like a redtail. Would suggest 18” in 2 yrs would probably be about right from 6” but 3” to 8” in a year is I would say about right too.

 

[Quack_Jaws22]

Hard one to answer. Very few people have grown Goonch beyond 2ft. Slow growing if you compare to something like a redtail. Would suggest 18” in 2 yrs would probably be about right from 6” but 3” to 8” in a year is I would say about right too.

would you say that its due to an inability to keep them alive long term, unmet care requirements or another factor?

 

[Fishman Dave]

I would say a mixture of reasons. As they grow, the flow of water they require increases proportionally to their size. By the time they are 2-3ft they really require a pond and an oversized pond pump. I also feel they are a fish that benefits from seasonal conditions.

 

[Quack_Jaws22]

I would say a mixture of reasons. As they grow, the flow of water they require increases proportionally to their size. By the time they are 2-3ft they really require a pond and an oversized pond pump. I also feel they are a fish that benefits from seasonal conditions.

I see, that makes a lot of sense. Would this apply similarly to the smaller Bagarius species do you think?

 

[Fishman Dave]

Have no experience with the dwarf bagarius so cannot say. Would not be suprised to find they were the same but to a lesser extent on the flow due to smaller size.

 

[Quack_Jaws22]

yeah that makes sense. Ah well, maybe one day in the distant future when my life is stable and my main future fish tank plans have been completed i will give it another shot

 

[Combine]

I would lable him as Bagarius Lica.
He got many spots and its base color is greenish.
His fins also seem to be rather big, he probably also has oval eyes if you look directly from the side.

I dont think the position of the fins has anything to say. As they angle it more if the current is strong.

I keep my Bagarius (lica and rutilus), in the same tank, at 27°C now and in the winter i had them at around 21°C or a little lower. They barely ate in the winter. I have them for over a year now, he was 12cm back then.

Below is my Lica