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If they are established already there's nothing anyone can do. DFW likes to do things like poison whole lakes, but they can't really do that with this one, can they? If anything people should take advantage of a 10 lb fish jumping into your boat, and eat it.
 
Great discussion i see all points but we should introduce gars unless it is the most practical strategy and leave sentiments of how cool it would be to have gars reintroduced out of it. Changing an ecosystem can have grave repercussions, as seen with the carp, we must be EXTREMELY careful to not make the same mistake trying to solve the problem

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Great discussion i see all points but we should introduce gars unless it is the most practical strategy and leave sentiments of how cool it would be to have gars reintroduced out of it. Changing an ecosystem can have grave repercussions, as seen with the carp, we must be EXTREMELY careful to not make the same mistake trying to solve the problem

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heres some evidence from the gar forum,
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Since this has kind of become the de facto big gar thread, I'll go ahead and temporarily hijack it a bit more (sorry OP, lol). Here's a gar dissection, of sorts, sorry if it's a bit gross but it will give you an idea of how big a fish a large alligator gar can swallow. (The fish in the video is a large grass carp, not sure what the one is in the pics.) Many of the bow fishermen in Oklahoma are letting the biologists from the university have their fish for aging and diet analysis, this was one of them:

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the pictures in the gar forum show a alligator gar being dissected (looks to be about 6-7ft long) with a large (about 3ft) grass carp in its gut.
 
I've got a picture of a gizzard shad from the belly of a 46 inch long nose gar that was around 10-12 inches. They can eat fish much larger than most would expect. The shad was the same length of the gar's head.
 
I've got a picture of a gizzard shad from the belly of a 46 inch long nose gar that was around 10-12 inches. They can eat fish much larger than most would expect. The shad was the same length of the gar's head.
But is it a norm for all gars? I've seen northern pikes attacked and killed much bigger muskellunges than themselves, does that means it's a norm for them? I would expect that the gator gars won't put dent on Asian carp populations.

PS.....10" gizzard shad isn't that large and I would expect that a 46" gar shouldn't have any problems with eating a 10" shad.
 
heres some evidence from the gar forum,
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Since this has kind of become the de facto big gar thread, I'll go ahead and temporarily hijack it a bit more (sorry OP, lol). Here's a gar dissection, of sorts, sorry if it's a bit gross but it will give you an idea of how big a fish a large alligator gar can swallow. (The fish in the video is a large grass carp, not sure what the one is in the pics.) Many of the bow fishermen in Oklahoma are letting the biologists from the university have their fish for aging and diet analysis, this was one of them:

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09-26-2013, 9:32 PM

the pictures in the gar forum show a alligator gar being dissected (looks to be about 6-7ft long) with a large (about 3ft) grass carp in its gut.
So where is the pictures?
 
But is it a norm for all gars? I've seen northern pikes attacked and killed much bigger muskellunges than themselves, does that means it's a norm for them? I would expect that the gator gars won't put dent on Asian carp populations.

PS.....10" gizzard shad isn't that large and I would expect that a 46" gar shouldn't have any problems with eating a 10" shad.

Not the first time I've found large prey in their bellies. When they don't take bait and I switch to the bow, then I usually find them full. I just pulled the head out of the freezer and the comparison puts the shad at 14 inches, not my guess at 10.

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