so i have 2 "GSP", or at least thats what the pet store said they were. the one being a GSP i have not questioned, its the second one i have. he is about a half inch to 3/4 of an inch longer than my GSP, looks like he has a more slender body to him, and doesnt look as fat as the GSP not even after eating. he gets a little fatness to his belly but nothing like the GSP gets after eating, even before eating the GSP looks like he has a little belly on him but the other one doesnt seem to have that belly to him. they look almost exactly the same except the slenderness, and the GSP looks to have slightly smaller spots. i was looking online to see what looked pretty much exactly like them and i saw the green puffer is very similar and sometimes sold in pet stores as GSP's. lately who i think is a green puffer has been getting these little black marks right under each side of his mouth, making him look sick. he doesnt seem like he is thought because he still eats the same and still is pretty active. he spends a good amount of time at the top of the water but utilizes the entire tank. what do you guys think?
Green puffer or GSP?
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yeah taking some tonight so i can post some. i the black marks are wierd, they appear and disappear. hes the only one in the tank that gets the black around his mouth, everyone else seems very happy and healthy. i cant get my water completely clear though after i changed over to a sand substrate. ive let my tank settle for a while after adding the sand a few weeks ago and it keeps looking like particles of sand are being pushed around everywhere and the sand wont allow it to look completely clear, any suggestions on that while im waiting on getting pictures?
Same thing--fat, thin, long, short--all GSPs: http://www.**************.com/forum...cus/an-introduction-to-green-spotted-puffers/
see there is so much misleading information online, i mean a rediculous amount of misleading information. i will look up a puffer by scientific name and it will come up with a GSP even though the name wasnt even close to their real scientific name. makes you kind of not trust ANY sources online. anyone ever hear of a Leopard Red Eye Puffer? they look like the red eye red tail puffers but without the red tail. i couldnt find anything online about them and couldnt even find info on this specific type which leads me to believe the puffers are mislabeled in the pet store
All the time, I'm afraid. Puffers are the most mislabeled family of all fish! The link I gave you is to the most acurate pufferinfo on the web. Check the Pufferpedia there for your redeye. Sounds like a Target species, maybe a Fang's.
so my puffers refused to be still for the pictures i was trying to take last night. they kept swimming away after seeing me with the camera and every picture i took the fish was a blur because they started swimming away. but anyway, the black markings on my big GSP are right below like the corners of his mouth, and i saw the black mark was running down his sides, almost like a divider from the spotted area to his stomach. i dont know if i should be worried or not. he eats just like he always has. i put in a cube of frozen mussel last night, him and my smaller GSP completely tore it apart, barely leaving any for my two F8's. hes been spending a lot of time towards the top of the tank but still swims to you if you come to the tank.
as for the leopard red eye, it looks almost like that Fangs, but has more markings like the F8 on its back, he was tiny. i was talking to someone at the pet store about that species and they told me they were brackish water. well i decided to get one since my original goal was to have a couple different types of puffers(if i could) in a big tank. it took the leopard red eye about a week to die. the last like two days he lived he kept swimming into stuff pretty hard, then he would swim around in a circle kind of looking like he was chasing his tail. i think i got different information than what the species really needs to thrive. why would he die if all my other puffers(except maybe the big GSP) are fine and happy? i know my water is good, i have all the testers and keep a very close eye on the tank and the conditions. i do water changes every week with 1 cup of marine salt/5 gallons, which gives me a SPG of 1.010-1.015.
as for the leopard red eye, it looks almost like that Fangs, but has more markings like the F8 on its back, he was tiny. i was talking to someone at the pet store about that species and they told me they were brackish water. well i decided to get one since my original goal was to have a couple different types of puffers(if i could) in a big tank. it took the leopard red eye about a week to die. the last like two days he lived he kept swimming into stuff pretty hard, then he would swim around in a circle kind of looking like he was chasing his tail. i think i got different information than what the species really needs to thrive. why would he die if all my other puffers(except maybe the big GSP) are fine and happy? i know my water is good, i have all the testers and keep a very close eye on the tank and the conditions. i do water changes every week with 1 cup of marine salt/5 gallons, which gives me a SPG of 1.010-1.015.
Red-eyes are FW, so the salt is probably what killed him.
How big is the tank?
How was it cycled?
How long did it take you to get to that high SG?
Combining puffer species is a really bad idea! F8s do best at a SG if 1.005 & GSPs require high-end BW/SW conditions as adults. You need to do much more research at my site about what species you are keeping & their requirememts. Please don't buy any more puffers. Keep a very close eye on the parameters & do large weekly WC.
How big is the tank?
How was it cycled?
How long did it take you to get to that high SG?
the tank is only a 29 right now but the puffers are fairly small still too, i just wanted to get any puffers i wanted while i was doing the BW changeover so i dont get a FW puffer and it gets shocked going into the BW or SW. a much bigger tank will be purchased in the next month or two depending on the moving situation. a bunch of sites were saying that F8's and GSP's need BW and eventually SW. i did plenty of research between when i used to have them and now since i got them again. i try to look up something new about them daily. but i do about a 50% change weekly, i fill up my rubbermaid containers dissolve the salt in them and let them aerate for like two days before i do the change. i did a slow incline of SG for like a month period so i knew i wasnt shocking them.
theres plenty of broken view so they cant spot eachother from across the tank. they were all small when i got them and i got them in the same time period. i continously see the smaller GSP and a F8 swimming along the glass with eachother, theres never any agression towards eachother during feeding time or after. i watch the tank when i have all the lights off in the house and i can see their shadows swimming around late at night, they still swim together without problems. but you dont think that the F8's will be ok with a little higher SPG that the GSP's prefer?
only once incident occured and it had nothing to do with the fish being agressive towards eachother. there was almost a catrastophe a little while ago with a penguin filter and a F8 i have. i had the filter tube tight when i put it in the tank but somehow right after a water change the sifter part(that some fish often get stuck to in fish tanks) came off so there was the open hole. it must have fallen off because i inspect my tank before and after the change to make sure everything is good to go before plugging in anything. well my filter started running dry and my friend shouted my name to point it out to me while i was in the other room. i came in and i heard the impeller grinding. unplug the filter, take out the filter tube and i see the tail of one of my F8's sticking out and the hole was the perfect diameter for the fish to get air tight stuck in there. so i quickly put his end in the water and blew out the other end of the tube and he rocketed back into the tank. puffed up a little bit but not fully and was scared sh*tless, still a little skittish to this day but hes getting better. seemed like it spooked my smaller GSP since they were the only two in the tank at the time. crazy stuff, but he survived and im proud of him haha
only once incident occured and it had nothing to do with the fish being agressive towards eachother. there was almost a catrastophe a little while ago with a penguin filter and a F8 i have. i had the filter tube tight when i put it in the tank but somehow right after a water change the sifter part(that some fish often get stuck to in fish tanks) came off so there was the open hole. it must have fallen off because i inspect my tank before and after the change to make sure everything is good to go before plugging in anything. well my filter started running dry and my friend shouted my name to point it out to me while i was in the other room. i came in and i heard the impeller grinding. unplug the filter, take out the filter tube and i see the tail of one of my F8's sticking out and the hole was the perfect diameter for the fish to get air tight stuck in there. so i quickly put his end in the water and blew out the other end of the tube and he rocketed back into the tank. puffed up a little bit but not fully and was scared sh*tless, still a little skittish to this day but hes getting better. seemed like it spooked my smaller GSP since they were the only two in the tank at the time. crazy stuff, but he survived and im proud of him haha