Green Tiger barbs weak?

[Anubisscott]

Calm down fella, im not just making ish up here. My fire eel use to beg for food at the top and his tail would be wiggling and they bite and shreaded his tail a couple times. They shreaded my loach till he stressed to death. And yes the dominant barb did follow my green terror around and nibble at her tail nonstop. Ive seen them eat half of another barb in less than 8hrs at night. IME these fish are like little piranha. I dont care what your fish do, im just explaining what happened in my experiences with barbs. I know these fish can get along but alot of times they dont. No need to act like your king dick tiger barb

I'm not acting like the king, just calling BS. They just don't have the teeth to do what you claim as I showed in the video. Plus I doubt you left a dead fish in your tank for 8hrs while you sat and watched. A Tiger barb couldn't handle a loach either. Again, too fast and can handle them no prob with their teeth and spines. That must have been a small GT, because even the most docile of cichlids woulnd't tolerate a smaller and weaker fish nipping at them. As for shreding of any kind the video shows speaks for itself. They can't do much shreding, just nipping.

 

[FishingOut]

I'm not acting like the king, just calling BS. They just don't have the teeth to do what you claim as I showed in the video. Plus I doubt you left a dead fish in your tank for 8hrs while you sat and watched. A Tiger barb couldn't handle a loach either. Again, too fast and can handle them no prob with their teeth and spines. That must have been a small GT, because even the most docile of cichlids woulnd't tolerate a smaller and weaker fish nipping at them. As for shreding of any kind the video shows speaks for itself. They can't do much shreding, just nipping.

Andddddddd another MFK know-it-all. Believe what you want, but dont call me a liar. Most fish have teeth and if barbs didnt have teeth why are people afraid of nipping? Did i say i watched a dead fish for 8hrs? A small female gt isnt going to square up with a barb thats following it and biting it. Its going to freak her out and shell run, and thats what barbs like. Yeah man, i sit around here and lie about my piranha-esk barbs. Your an idiot.

 

[Anubisscott]

Andddddddd another MFK know-it-all. Believe what you want, but dont call me a liar. Most fish have teeth and if barbs didnt have teeth why are people afraid of nipping? Did i say i watched a dead fish for 8hrs? A small female gt isnt going to square up with a barb thats following it and biting it. Its going to freak her out and shell run, and thats what barbs like. Yeah man, i sit around here and lie about my piranha-esk barbs. Your an idiot.

Never said the fish didn't have teeth, what I am saying is they don't have the teeth to do what you say they did. Again, not Piranha. Yours don't have any nastier teeth then the ones I have. I guess I should have asked how large the terror was, but I am sure your going to say it was a 1" GT now. And yes a small GT will square up with a Tiger barb. TB's max at around 2"(Body length), while most GT's are sold at 1"-2" long. Even at that size, a GT is a more solid fish. Not to mention they can do alot more damage as you can see in small tanks where they are over stocked at an LFS. They might be a weaker cichlid and does get bullied by most other cichlids their size, but a tiger barb just doesen't have it. Maybe a Tinfoil, but not a tiger. You never see tiger barbs doing that much damage to one another. The two dominent males(Full size) I have beat on each other atleast 3 times a day going in circles. If they had that kind of "shredding ability", one of them would be dead by now. Fin nippers they are towards each other and community fish. Shredders of other "Larger and More powerful fish" clearly not.

And for the record since you tossed in the "another know it all MFKer" you need to understand something. Almost all the members here that have been here are very knowledgable. People here will do their best to ensure people get "correct" information and not get misinformed. Most the time when someone tossed that out they are the one giving out bad/incorrect information.

 

[knifegill]

a GT is a more solid fish

Not to take sides here, but a GT hasn't got a chance of withstanding an attack from a wad of duct tape. And tiger barbs do go insane and attack things to the point of stress and death. I have no idea why anyone would let it go on and on and on. Sounds like a torture chamber more than a fish tank. Sad business, here.

Also, could you both state how many fish were in your tiger barb schools? More barbs usually = less outside aggression, so maybe the one with all these stories of vicious maulings only has seven or nine instead of fifteen. Or did I miss something?

 

[Anubisscott]

Not to take sides here, but a GT hasn't got a chance of withstanding an attack from a wad of duct tape. And tiger barbs do go insane and attack things to the point of stress and death. I have no idea why anyone would let it go on and on and on. Sounds like a torture chamber more than a fish tank. Sad business, here.

I will have way agree with you on half of this, but a GT has it on a barb. Most people when comparing GT aggression compare them to other cichlids, which in fact they are definently at the bottom. A tiger barb however, GT just has bigger teeth and is a "more solid fish" at 2" It's community fish they are known for terrorizing.

Also, could you both state how many fish were in your tiger barb schools? More barbs usually = less outside aggression, so maybe the one with all these stories of vicious maulings only has seven or nine instead of fifteen. Or did I miss something

This is true aswell, but the down side is in smaller groups TB's have less of a chance stressing out a larger fish as that fish in turn can focus in on them. Part of my success is there are so many which prevents my Midas from focusing in on one when he is doing an occasional "half #$@%" dominance showing by chasing them when they get too close to his pot.

 

[knifegill]

I will have way agree with you on half of this, but a GT has it on a barb. Most people when comparing GT aggression compare them to other cichlids, which in fact they are definently at the bottom. A tiger barb however, GT just has bigger teeth and is a "more solid fish" at 2" It's community fish they are known for terrorizing.

I will also agree partly with what you are saying. Most small community fish know when to back down, and most large cichlids are good at threatening them. I have kept tiger barbs and I have kept GT's, and they both confounded me. The tiger barbs seemed to have no idea how small they were and were relentless in their pursuits of fin-biting and other aggression toward other tankmates. I only had three because I was a total n00b and didn't know what I was doing. Anyway, the barbs were like chihuahuas. No idea that they weren't the biggest thing around.
Then, the GT. Mine was, admittedly, not a good sample of the species. He was slow to eat and had the white poo on and off the whole time I had him, no matter what I threw at him to fix it. As far as his interactions went, I don't think he ever knew what was going on around him. Nothing ever nipped at him, but he was always easy to net and didn't have a very strong response to any stimuli. So GT's in my odd experience are not the best at defending themselves. I don't know about fire eels or loaches.

 

[Blue Demp]

LOL @ FishingOut... you can't be serious. I agree Scott does act like a know it all, but this time he knows what he's talking about.

 

[FishingOut]

Sry bro, but there are way too many people unwilling to listen. I dont doubt the incredibly vast knowledge throughout the mfk community but when somebody calls me a liar, about tiger barbs, its like wtf? Just because something happened a certain way in your tank doesnt mean it will always happen that way. Ecpecially when we are talking about unpredictable fish like barbs and cichlids. My female Gt was prly 2.5in at the time and the barb 1-1.5in. In theory, yes a gt will murder a barb. But that doesnt matter when the barb is comepletly agressive, she would rather hide from it then fight it. It nipped her she ran and it chased her. Nothing i have said is so farfetched to be considered bs. Youve been trying to twist my words. Im not some kid trolling around mfk spreading bs, i know my fish.

 

[Anubisscott]

Then, the GT. Mine was, admittedly, not a good sample of the species. He was slow to eat and had the white poo on and off the whole time I had him, no matter what I threw at him to fix it. As far as his interactions went, I don't think he ever knew what was going on around him. Nothing ever nipped at him, but he was always easy to net and didn't have a very strong response to any stimuli. So GT's in my odd experience are not the best at defending themselves. I don't know about fire eels or loaches.

Yeah, unfortunantly they are known for that. I had a pugnatious male that was tough with the 5 tiger barbs he was with in the 55g grow out tank. However, with some dovii that were alittle smaller then him he was a wimp against. If it wasn't for a female salvini that descided he was her mate he would have got bullied more. She kept the whole tank in line and no one messed with her man. lol

 

[Anubisscott]

LOL @ FishingOut... you can't be serious. I agree Scott does act like a know it all, but this time he knows what he's talking about.

You just say that because you have a hard time hearing "I told ya so". lol