GTs in 150

[Davidiator]

Ok what do you all think of this?

1 M GT
3 F GT
7 Clown Loaches (right now they are really small and would take forever to grow)
25 Buenos Aires Tetras
1 JD OR Oscar

 

[TheWolfman]

Personally I think that the likelihood of you sexing any Cichlid at the size you would need to start them at would be next to impossible. Secondly I think that if you have any cichlid in your tank let alone multiple you are going to have a royal rumble in your tank, and they are going to kill your clowns. Why can’t you just enjoy the stock you currently have and stop trying to put fish that don’t belong together in your tank?

 

[Bertie07]

I would go with:

1m green terror
3f green terrors
6-7 clown loaches
15 Buenos Aires tetras or 6 Rose line sharks
This tank won’t be overstocked until the clowns get big and should be active with the tetras or sharks

 

[Stanzzzz7]

Personally I think that the likelihood of you sexing any Cichlid at the size you would need to start them at would be next to impossible. Secondly I think that if you have any cichlid in your tank let alone multiple you are going to have a royal rumble in your tank, and they are going to kill your clowns. Why can’t you just enjoy the stock you currently have and stop trying to put fish that don’t belong together in your tank?

Gt's are relatively easy to sex at an early age. They actually start breeding at little more than 2.5 inches.
Finding a harem should not prove very problematic.
Multiple cichlids is not always a recipe for disaster. Some cichlids actually live in groups in the wild and can cause more havoc on their own without the distractions of each other.
From my own experience gt's work very well in harem and I see no reason to not take this route here.
I don't think clown loaches are the best choice of tank mate for cichlids as they occupy the same territories . Breeding gt's may see them as a threat and attack them.

 

[neutrino]

I don't think clown loaches are the best choice of tank mate for cichlids as they occupy the same territories . Breeding gt's may see them as a threat and attack them.

Imo I agree. Clown loaches are cute when small, get pushier with size, capable of getting aggressive in some cases. But I have seen odd combinations work, so not being dogmatic. Could be one of those sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't situations.

I wouldn't call CLs slow growing, ime they grow pretty quickly to @ 6,7 inches, then, like a lot of fish, grow slower to their eventual max. Cool fish in their own right. Imo the keep them until they get too big theory might be okay, but then you have the challenge of finding a home for larger fish.

Imo, with your stock list it comes down to this-- do I want a GT tank with fish to complement the GTs or a clown loach tank with some GTs in it, because that's what 6,7 loaches and a few GTs would become imo-- unless one or the other decided not to tolerate each other.

 

[neutrino]

Don't know that I get the advantage of Buenos Aries tetras over Congo tetras if the consideration is size, they're basically the same size, BA tetras a little sleeker on average. Also, BA tetras can get pretty nippy, congo tetras normally not ime, though, not sure on this, but in a big tank and in a large enough group it might not be as much of an issue with the BA tetras.

 

[RD.]

Imo, with your stock list it comes down to this-- do I want a GT tank with fish to complement the GTs or a clown loach tank with some GTs in it, because that's what 6,7 loaches and a few GTs would become imo-- unless one or the other decided not to tolerate each other.

Bingo!

 

[Gourami Swami]

I would get a group of like 7 of them around 2 inches, let them grow up together, and sell all but one male once you can tell what is what. If you get unlucky and get mostly males, I'd just sell/re-home them and get females till you have 1m 4f group.
I would probably skip the loaches and do the plecos if you wanted a bottom dweller, as well as some tetras or dithers of your choice

 

[Davidiator]

Personally I think that the likelihood of you sexing any Cichlid at the size you would need to start them at would be next to impossible. Secondly I think that if you have any cichlid in your tank let alone multiple you are going to have a royal rumble in your tank, and they are going to kill your clowns. Why can’t you just enjoy the stock you currently have and stop trying to put fish that don’t belong together in your tank?

Because most of my fish will outgrow tank and are nocturnal so I am figuring this out no before fish get large and no one wants them

Gt's are relatively easy to sex at an early age. They actually start breeding at little more than 2.5 inches.
Finding a harem should not prove very problematic.
Multiple cichlids is not always a recipe for disaster. Some cichlids actually live in groups in the wild and can cause more havoc on their own without the distractions of each other.
From my own experience gt's work very well in harem and I see no reason to not take this route here.
I don't think clown loaches are the best choice of tank mate for cichlids as they occupy the same territories . Breeding gt's may see them as a threat and attack them.

I really like the GTs so I will get rid of the clowns in return for the GTs

Imo I agree. Clown loaches are cute when small, get pushier with size, capable of getting aggressive in some cases. But I have seen odd combinations work, so not being dogmatic. Could be one of those sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't situations.

I wouldn't call CLs slow growing, ime they grow pretty quickly to @ 6,7 inches, then, like a lot of fish, grow slower to their eventual max. Cool fish in their own right. Imo the keep them until they get too big theory might be okay, but then you have the challenge of finding a home for larger fish.

Imo, with your stock list it comes down to this-- do I want a GT tank with fish to complement the GTs or a clown loach tank with some GTs in it, because that's what 6,7 loaches and a few GTs would become imo-- unless one or the other decided not to tolerate each other.

Definetly GT tank...

I will be getting rid of the clowns

Don't know that I get the advantage of Buenos Aries tetras over Congo tetras if the consideration is size, they're basically the same size, BA tetras a little sleeker on average. Also, BA tetras can get pretty nippy, congo tetras normally not ime, though, not sure on this, but in a big tank and in a large enough group it might not be as much of an issue with the BA tetras.[/QUOTE

Congos are 3" and BAs are 4"

At least that's what I heard...



Alright what do you think of this stocking?

1 M GT
4 F GT
20 BA Tetras
3 Bristlenose Plecos (1 M & 2 F)(hopefully)
4 Pictus Cats

 

[Stanzzzz7]

I don't think there is much difference in the size of these tetras, I just think BA tetras are a little hardier, quicker and better aquiped to deal with larger rowdy cichlids.
Both have a chance of being preyed upon if introduced at the wrong size.
I've seen them eat quite large bleeding hearts so no guarantees.