H1N1 flu shots for our kids + the regular flu shot

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No flu shots for me. I haven't had one in a few years now.

There was a different type of swine flu, in the late 70s I think. I know people who have friends that had horrible reactions to the vaccines, to where they aren't the same today.
 
My issue is they say it is very important for expecting women and children of all people to get this H1N1 shot, well i am expecting but i find this shot to new for me to go ahead and get it, what if there are long term affects on my baby, no one can say yet if this were to happen.
I think im just going to continue washing my hands everytime im near a sink and i also have 4 bottles of sanitizer around the house so everytime my daughter walks by one she wants some and ive got my husband doing it aswell.
 
No offense to the OP at all by any means.

I'm sort of freaked out by these vaccines, especially the new ones. I mean I'll take the polio vaccine because that thing is ancient and has no adverse(not major I'm assuming since we still use it today) effects, but that's it. Give it a few years maybe even a decade and I'll probably take these new vaccines, but not right now. I keep thinking that I Am Legend will happen. :(
 
no offense taken. I know there are a lot of pros n cons out there for reg flu H1N1 & basically any vaccines out there. there was some cases where families elected no vaccines due to religious beliefs & their kids became seriously ill & then died. they were prosecuted.

as for the flu shots (reg or H1N1 or both) I agree not enough studies & cases & results to determine it's mortality affect. but we do know from just recent reporting that 43 or 44 kids have died just within the past 2wks or month time. they didn't have the vaccine (whether it was available or their parents declined it is another issue).

that is an alarming rate for present times. & we are in the present in the middle of another rough tough dangerous flu season.

pregnant women, children & I add elderly & those with underlying conditions are better off with the vaccine than not because it gives one a chance to fight it off.

because this season's strain of H1N1 is so virulent, you take the risk of serious consequences.

is it better to risk catching it with no defense & suffer possible serious illness & develop other complications (as I mentioned a child perfectly healthy developed infected lungs, pneumonia - died; while another child (a miracle) had 2 tests come back negative health deteriorated rapidly fear of collapsed lung went to ER then finally diagnosed with H1N1 but survives! she just left hospital couple days ago been in since june. now that's another alarming fact that the tests her pediatrician used tested negative twice - which lead to mis-diagnosis.

DO YOU ALL WANT TO RISK SIMILAR ISSUES & BE A STATISTIC!

DON'T SUBJECT YOURSELF OR YOUR LOVE ONES TO THIS RISK & FATE!

NO MATTER HOW HEALTHY YOU OR YOUR LOVE ONES ARE - IT'S OTHERS WHO CAN INFECT YOU & YOU WILL SUFFER.

remember my initial fear with my daughter's experience earlier this yr? you do not want to go thru that fear & then rely on an ER visit where things can get messed up for you!

so to all you must do what you must do - your choice your decision - but remember you do not want to go thru this without giving yourself & love ones a fighting chance.

but I will qualify this - yes there have been cases where people have had adverse effect from the vaccine, some quite serious - not all will be able to take it - allergies will occur.

but you weigh the risk of taking the vaccines & possibly getting a negative reaction vs no vaccine risk exposure & suffer dire consequenses.

THIS IS ONE NASTY BUG!
 
sushiray;3543193; said:
no offense taken. I know there are a lot of pros n cons out there for reg flu H1N1 & basically any vaccines out there. there was some cases where families elected no vaccines due to religious beliefs & their kids became seriously ill & then died. they were prosecuted.

as for the flu shots (reg or H1N1 or both) I agree not enough studies & cases & results to determine it's mortality affect. but we do know from just recent reporting that 43 or 44 kids have died just within the past 2wks or month time. they didn't have the vaccine (whether it was available or their parents declined it is another issue).

that is an alarming rate for present times. & we are in the present in the middle of another rough tough dangerous flu season.

pregnant women, children & I add elderly & those with underlying conditions are better off with the vaccine than not because it gives one a chance to fight it off.

because this season's strain of H1N1 is so virulent, you take the risk of serious consequences.

is it better to risk catching it with no defense & suffer possible serious illness & develop other complications (as I mentioned a child perfectly healthy developed infected lungs, pneumonia - died; while another child (a miracle) had 2 tests come back negative health deteriorated rapidly fear of collapsed lung went to ER then finally diagnosed with H1N1 but survives! she just left hospital couple days ago been in since june. now that's another alarming fact that the tests her pediatrician used tested negative twice - which lead to mis-diagnosis.

DO YOU ALL WANT TO RISK SIMILAR ISSUES & BE A STATISTIC!

DON'T SUBJECT YOURSELF OR YOUR LOVE ONES TO THIS RISK & FATE!

NO MATTER HOW HEALTHY YOU OR YOUR LOVE ONES ARE - IT'S OTHERS WHO CAN INFECT YOU & YOU WILL SUFFER.

remember my initial fear with my daughter's experience earlier this yr? you do not want to go thru that fear & then rely on an ER visit where things can get messed up for you!

so to all you must do what you must do - your choice your decision - but remember you do not want to go thru this without giving yourself & love ones a fighting chance.

but I will qualify this - yes there have been cases where people have had adverse effect from the vaccine, some quite serious - not all will be able to take it - allergies will occur.

but you weigh the risk of taking the vaccines & possibly getting a negative reaction vs no vaccine risk exposure & suffer dire consequenses.

THIS IS ONE NASTY BUG!

Dude, really? This isn't one nasty bug, this is media hype. The common flu is so much worse then this....43 or 44 kids in two weeks? The common flu KILLS 174 PEOPLE EVERY DAY. 115 people die every day in the US due to automobile crashes, 3000 people every day worldwide. 1221 people die every day due to a heart attack.

People really need to stop kirking out on the H1N1. It is NOTHING.
 
rmorse;3544241; said:
Dude, really? This isn't one nasty bug, this is media hype. The common flu is so much worse then this....43 or 44 kids in two weeks? The common flu KILLS 174 PEOPLE EVERY DAY. 115 people die every day in the US due to automobile crashes, 3000 people every day worldwide. 1221 people die every day due to a heart attack.

People really need to stop kirking out on the H1N1. It is NOTHING.


I can't believe it! For once I agree with rmorse! :D :ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:
 
Knowdafish;3544286; said:
I can't believe it! For once I agree with rmorse! :D :ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:



:WHOA:

C'mon now....I can't be THAT controversial.
 
rmorse;3544241; said:
Dude, really? This isn't one nasty bug, this is media hype. The common flu is so much worse then this....43 or 44 kids in two weeks? The common flu KILLS 174 PEOPLE EVERY DAY. 115 people die every day in the US due to automobile crashes, 3000 people every day worldwide. 1221 people die every day due to a heart attack.

People really need to stop kirking out on the H1N1. It is NOTHING.

Have you been in the presence of other parents who have undergone similar scary situations with this variant of flu? you should speak to them & how they feel.

we had the regular flu in the past in our family & with friends, relatives, neighbors & all agree in no way does it compare with the H1N1.

I am not saying to panic & yes there is a lot of media hype.

but dare I ask you to show the recent statistics (let's say 2009) for reg. flu casualties vs. the H1N1? your source? can you provide us all with links so we may be on the same page as you? I don't doubt there have been many deaths due to the reg. flu, but this H1N1 is so virulent complications can turn for the worst very very quickly.

and why not the media hype on so many reg. flu deaths? that would make headline newsworthiness as it would intend to scare the public into taking both vaccines since that would make 2 death threatening flu bugs out there!

but I thinks that the reg. flu bug is the more temperate milder experience with not so frequent deaths being reported (tho you quote otherwise). you think NYC would rather let reg. flu related deaths in the 100's go by un-noticed & hype H1N1 deaths only??!!

the H1N1 is the more virulent (but don't get me wrong, I know there are many cases of people catching this but have survived w/o any serious implications - my daughter case in pt.)

but our whole 4th grade was decimated early this yr but T.G. no tragedies. but the experiences felt in their families were all too scary. they too have had the reg flu & never felt this scared as they do with the H1N1. & most all of us had the reg. flu vaccine but no H1N1 vaccine back then, Tamiflu was the only prescription available to lessen the severity.

so dude/dudettes - if you thinks it's all hype, tell that to the families that suffered the most recent deaths (now just reported 16 H1N1 related children's deaths in only the past week! all w/o the vaccines!) - tell them it's all hype & they don't need the vaccine & no big deal that the reg. flu takes more lives. tell them their tragic experience means nothing when looking at the big picture of all the deaths from car accidents, drunken driving, heart attacks, cancer, murders, etc. but that's not to say I am de-minimizing these facts. I am not making the comparisons.

BUT here we're talking about whether to take the vaccine or not as a matter of choice. car accidents are what they are - accidents. heart attacks are to prevent as with virulent cancers. murders are wrong place wrong time just an intentional accident. no vaccines to take to try to prevent these death types. aye?

I will repeat this bright spot reported on one of the morning news shows this week - cameron is a girl who was in excellent health with no underlying conditions (at least no signs of any) who showed all the signs of the flu but her pediatrician's tests came back negative twice - twice tested! so they diagnose other than the flu. but her mother insisted it had to be the flu as her daughter showed all the tell-tale signs. but her condition worsen (almost had lung failure due to complications arising from the H1N1 which lead to pneumonia & then almost a collapsed lung!) & had to be rushed to ER where it wasn't till she reached the hospital was she tested & diagnosed with H1N1. only recently released this week she had been admitted in june! she now has a long recovery period but she is alive & happy for it! & she did not have the vaccine (it wasn't available as is the case in our county/townships).

so dudes/dudettes, tell that to this parent it's not big deal!

ok, I'll stop my lunatically ranting & raving. I am not trying to convince you or others who share your sentiments. I am trying to convince others who may be concern for their own & love one's well being.

but still - like Pro-Choice - taking the vaccine or not is one's choice!

in either case, do stay well do stay healthy - but please don't tell others who have tragically suffered your cavalier view on this health issue. unless you have no emotional compassionate feelings then by all means.
 
flowerpower;3529890; said:
Yeah but the vaccine is killing people too. 25 so far and many more with signs of neurological disorders. 1 in 1000 people die from H1N1 while 1 in 100,000 die from the vaccine. Sounds safe enough, huh? But consider that over 100x more people are scheduled to get the vaccine than would ever get the virus if not vaccinated.

I may not have stated that so eloquently, but I hope you get the idea.

sorry, I forgot to ask for the link to this statistical reporting. I tried to google but didn't come up with any solid leads. would like to read more on this,

thx
 
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