Hairless Chimps

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But it still is the best for them, as a whole.

Maybe in your romanticized opinion; but scientifically I don't see the evidence to support it.

Anyone read The Life of Pi? I mean actually read it, not watch that crappy movie... It gives a great description of what "happy life" should look like for captive animals.
 
That may be true for some animals but I believe that the higher the intelligence and more aware of the surroundings they are the more of an issue it is. If you are put into a cage, albeit a nice one, surrounded everyday with creatures gesturing and making sounds you did not understand, would you be happy because you didn't have to worry about money or food?

You just described my workplace...

But seriously, go back to what I actually wrote. Size of the "enclosure" is a significant factor. Many "safaris" exposed animals in the wild to what you described "creatures gesturing and making sounds you did not understand" on a daily basis. Do you rate them as "unhappy" too?
 
You just described my workplace...

But seriously, go back to what I actually wrote. Size of the "enclosure" is a significant factor. Many "safaris" exposed animals in the wild to what you described "creatures gesturing and making sounds you did not understand" on a daily basis. Do you rate them as "unhappy" too?
Unless they are tied in place or fenced in, animal seen on a safari have the option of moving or not being viewed at all times every day. What would you consider an appropriate enclosure size? Lets say for the human in my example. House sized? Block sized? Neighborhood?
 
Maybe in your romanticized opinion; but scientifically I don't see the evidence to support it.

Do we need this BS?

Do i qualify your opinions?
 
Lets not get angry now.
 
Do not test me then.
 
Unless they are tied in place or fenced in, animal seen on a safari have the option of moving or not being viewed at all times every day. What would you consider an appropriate enclosure size? Lets say for the human in my example. House sized? Block sized? Neighborhood?

Most zoos provide an area out of "the public eye". But it'd be interesting if someone did a study to see if the animals in a safari do chose to move on or not.
 
Most zoos provide an area out of "the public eye". But it'd be interesting if someone did a study to see if the animals in a safari do chose to move on or not.

It would be interesting to do but difficult to get accurate readings as the act of observation would skew the results.


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