Has anyone tried this as filter media???

[Bderick67]

I am sorry, but either way you will have the same amount of BB. Just one way gives more potential for BB that the other.

Like chompers said in another thread, they do not know the actual surface area of the ceramic and splintered glass medias, it is purely theory.

Right, I'm sure you'll be happy with your scrubbies. So many people have to over filter because they use the wrong media

 

[sterling_mcdaniel]

Yah... But it would look neat

I think fluidized bed filters look even cooler though... And are better/cheaper.

How about converting that to a FBF and getting an aquaclear powerhead (ac70 should work) to power it? Just change the item number at DFS to CK instead of CD and you can get one for 27.99. That would be cheaper than buying 2 containers of BBs

I have thought of switching it to a FBF but there are just to many flaws in the design of the protein skimmer I think I will load it full 'O' scrubbies and be happy.

 

[wow_it_esploded]

Right, I'm sure you'll be happy with your scrubbies. So many people have to over filter because they use the wrong media

If you need to use more media to support the bioload of your tank because the media your are using is lacking in surface area, then you are not overfiltering.

Like I said, there is no way for them to guage the actual surface area of that ehfi substrat, they use fractals to guess it.

I guess I can call you crazy for not using a FBF, seeing as fine sand has a surface area of 156square meters/gram. That totally beats ehfisubstrat because ehfisubstrat has 450m^2/liter.

 

[wow_it_esploded]

I have thought of switching it to a FBF but there are just to many flaws in the design of the protein skimmer I think I will load it full 'O' scrubbies and be happy.

Ok... Sort the colors out though because it would still give people (who arent into fish) the "ahhh... whats that colorful thing over there"

 

[sterling_mcdaniel]

Ok... Sort the colors out though because it would still give people (who arent into fish) the "ahhh... whats that colorful thing over there"

LOL. will do. I have one already running full of porus ceramic tubes. I'll try to get some pics when I get off of work...

 

[wow_it_esploded]

Cant wait! I was actually looking into buying some crappy skimmers off of c-list to convert into filters, but then I realized that I do not need more unfinished projects lying around... Monetary issues always put me at a standstill for things... But what can I say, I cant get a job yet!

 

[Bderick67]

If you need to use more media to support the bioload of your tank because the media your are using is lacking in surface area, then you are not overfiltering.

Like I said, there is no way for them to guage the actual surface area of that ehfi substrat, they use fractals to guess it.

I guess I can call you crazy for not using a FBF, seeing as fine sand has a surface area of 156square meters/gram. That totally beats ehfisubstrat because ehfisubstrat has 450m^2/liter.

You would have to call me crazy if I put sand in my canister filter. Sand is best used in fluidized bed filters. Just like pot scrubbies don't work in a canister as well as other media. Keep the scrubbies in a wet/dry trickle filter and they are perfect.

The right media for the right filter.

 

[yipp-e]

I am sorry but one the first thing you listed, poor surface area, made any sense. What do you mean by the rest?

Bioballs are expensive in large amounts and they are lacking in surface area. They have 160 square feet/cubic foot, while scrubbies have 370 square feet/cubic foot. Also, scrubbies are cheap and can be obtained in large quantities from zennzzo (I think that is how his username is spelled).

Having MORE than twice as much surface area, and being exponentially cheaper, pot scrubbies are superior to bioballs.

you do realise i was reffering to the actual BBs. Not scrubbies? And BBs are a terrible idea. Even if you scratch them up they are not an ideal enviroment for bacteria to breed. You can sit down all night and "mathematically" calculate whatever you like, doesnt change the fact that the bacteria has nothing to "hang" on to. Bio balls are designed the way they are for a reason. Small openings that are kept lightly wet with ample oxygen, this is why you beloved scrubbies work so well. As for your reference to bio balls being expensive, i hardly think anyone in this hobby should be whinging about spending money. this has to be one of the most pricey things you can rack up money on. I wouldnt dare sit down and work out how much money ive spent over the last ten odd years. Also i checked ebay U.S and there were quite a few ppl selling bio balls in bulk. between $8- $100 the ones for around the $100 mark were for lots of 2250, thats 22 cents each, not what i would call a deal breaker.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Bio-Balls-1-Aqu...5|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318|301:1|293:1|294:50

 

[CHOMPERS]

because i have a POS HOB protein skimmer that i want to turn into a filter and the power head i have will not push enough water to run a FBF. plus this filter will go on a 75 that really does not need any more filtration. I am just trying to find somthing new.

So the skimmer is a Sea Clone then?

I'm working my way through the thread at the moment but I think you are on to something. I predict the success of turning it into a FBF.

Has anyone stopped to calculate the surface area to volume yet? If not, what is their diameter? Also, do they float or sink?

 

[CHOMPERS]