Having trouble with your ray? Ray death recently?

[skynoch]

My water is direct and conditioned with prime on 2 tanks and the other 2 are off a drip system. My new rays where put in the direct with prime tank. I've switched my one direct tank to aquasafe and premixed before going in.

 

[Nic]

Once or twice per year many muni water supplies will put a huge 'slug' of chems through their system to reduce bacteria etc. athough usually during warm weather. Another reason to age and prefilter your water.

How many of these sick rays are either themselves from Asia or have been in direct contact with fish from Asia? I bet nearly all of them!

This kind of stuff was rare before imports from that part of the world became more common. Wild caught rays hardly ever bring bacterial problems with them. This is well known in fish circles for other species bred in Asia, the infamous 'discus plague' is an example that did the rounds globally several times over the years. A nasty and mostly antibiotic resistant bacteria that quickly destroyed whole breeder set-ups before it could be treated or diagnosed.
QUARANTINE all incoming fish for at least a month, preferably in a seperate room. Bacteria can move from tank to tank in a single drop of water or even through the air. Wash your hands before and after you touch your tanks. Cleanliness is next to godliness!
Rays are better kept as a single species. I see people here mixing rays with all sorts of fish that are not good tankmates and which complicate all problems because of their conflicting behaviour and habitat requirements. Every time you add another fish you add a bullet to the gun you are playing russian roulette with.

K.I.S.S acronym is usually attributed to kelly Johnson, the designer of the U2 spy plane. Simplicity is sophistication.

dont know if any are from asia.... some are originally but most i think are straight from south america... my water theory is shot down as there is well water in this too... any further ideas from you???

My water is direct and conditioned with prime on 2 tanks and the other 2 are off a drip system. My new rays where put in the direct with prime tank. I've switched my one direct tank to aquasafe and premixed before going in.

direct from where?

 

[skynoch]

dont know if any are from asia.... some are originally but most i think are straight from south america... my water theory is shot down as there is well water in this too... any further ideas from you???





direct from where?

It is from a community well and is treated with chlorine. No changes in the way they treat the water in the last while.

 

[jnkamoku]

1. How often do you do water changes? Once a Week

2. What percentage do you change? 30%

3. What size is your tank? 75 Gal

4. What is your stock? 2 12" FW atlantic rays 12" male 12" pregnant female

5. What is your filtration? Bio filter

6. What do you feed your rays? brine, krill, chichilid pellets

7. How often do you feed your rays?2-3 times a day

8. How long have you maintained this schedule? 4 months

9. Barebottom or Sand? mixture of sand and rocks

10. How long before your ray stopped eating and its death? 12" male died suddenly didnt even do the death curl, 12" female is not eating dont know whats wrong...

11. Did you add salt for treatment? added salt for treatment

12. What other meds did you use?stress coat

13. Did you transfer the sick ray? didnt transfer the sick ray did a WC.

14. What other info do you think might be helpful? My ray was swimming around and eating then three hours later when i returned the male ray was bellied up and now the female is not eating and not swimming around...anyone help please

15. Where was your ray from? Vendor? CB? Wild Caught? LFS, bought out of florida, born and raised in captivity.

 

[skynoch]

1. How often do you do water changes? Once a Week

2. What percentage do you change? 30%

3. What size is your tank? 75 Gal

4. What is your stock? 2 12" FW atlantic rays 12" male 12" pregnant female

5. What is your filtration? Bio filter

6. What do you feed your rays? brine, krill, chichilid pellets

7. How often do you feed your rays?2-3 times a day

8. How long have you maintained this schedule? 4 months

9. Barebottom or Sand? mixture of sand and rocks

10. How long before your ray stopped eating and its death? 12" male died suddenly didnt even do the death curl, 12" female is not eating dont know whats wrong...

11. Did you add salt for treatment? added salt for treatment

12. What other meds did you use?stress coat

13. Did you transfer the sick ray? didnt transfer the sick ray did a WC.

14. What other info do you think might be helpful? My ray was swimming around and eating then three hours later when i returned the male ray was bellied up and now the female is not eating and not swimming around...anyone help please

15. Where was your ray from? Vendor? CB? Wild Caught? LFS, bought out of florida, born and raised in captivity.

Im guessing with your bioload and increased eating with a pregnant ray and only once a week waterchanges in that size tank it may be haved suffered from bad waterconditions for too long a period. Do some 50% daily waterchanges for 3 days and then we'll see from there. Also you should add some salt. Not sure how much for atlantic ray but someone with more experience may be able to help. Search for atlantic ray in the stingray section for some more info.

 

[Gr8KarmaSF]

1. How often do you do water changes? Once a Week

2. What percentage do you change? 30%

3. What size is your tank? 75 Gal

4. What is your stock? 2 12" FW atlantic rays 12" male 12" pregnant female

5. What is your filtration? Bio filter

6. What do you feed your rays? brine, krill, chichilid pellets

7. How often do you feed your rays?2-3 times a day

IMO - It was MEGA Bio overload with not enough water changes!!!! Atlantic rays are a pain to keep due to their massive urine excretion rate!

 

[jnkamoku]

Thanks lesson learned I did 3 WC at 50% each as a fellow MFK stingray keeper had me do and my female just passed away. I found the problem though. I was ill equipped to handle such a ray and my tank was def not big enough. I was not only ill informed by the person who sold me the rays and the tank but now i know he knew nothing of stingrays like the professionals on here. Im glad I can get real experts help and advise here on MFK if i decide to try a ray again. thanks alot

 

[Gr8KarmaSF]

Sometime ya gotta learn the hard way...

Def. get another ray when you are ready!!!!

 

[Jerster77]

Knock on wood have not lost one yet....well take that back lost two retics. do to bad packaging. Supplier put them in the same bag

1. How often do you do water changes? Twice a week

2. What percentage do you change? 30 to 50%

3. What size is your tank? 120 gal

4. What is your stock? 2 retciulated one 12 "female, 4" male. 1 motoro male(just got)

5. What is your filtration? Two canister filters one with built in UV.

6. What do you feed your rays? Earthworms, Shrimp pellets, Cut shrimp.

7. How often do you feed your rays? Every day

8. How long have you maintained this schedule? forever

9. Barebottom or Sand? Little sand

10. How long before your ray stopped eating and its death? Has not happened.

11. Did you add salt for treatment? yes one tablespoon per gallon

12. What other meds did you use? none

13. Did you transfer the sick ray? NO

14. What other info do you think might be helpful? You need to have a routine and stick to it. Feed at same time water changes at same time ect. Rays do like it when things change, I went on vacation for a weekend and they were not happy that the routine changed...lol They will let you know.

15. Where was your ray from? Vendor? CB? Wild Caught? LFS

 

[Gr8KarmaSF]

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