HBO Special - Death on a Factory Farm

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Factory farming and subsidization or corn are at the root of the problem.

Read Michael Pollan's book, "The Omnivore's Dilemma": http://www.amazon.com/Omnivores-Dile...651397-6348536


krzr3000;2926590; said:
On a side note, sorta going along with the lack of updating the practices and like i mentioned before, there is much more to it than just ethics.

Many don't realize what it takes for factory farming to operate. Its frankly devastating to the environment and inefficiently depletes natural resources. Most of the grain produced goes to feeding animals so they can be fed to humans. Thus clearing even more land, here and abroad. Not to mention the methane production, and waste. Groundwater contamination, runoff, polluted watersheds in the area (i hope they don't have wells). Bacteria contamination will kill fish and wreak havoc on any ecosystem. What gets to me the most is the absentmindedness...its bought in the grocery store nicely packaged completely ignorant of what had to suffer and what had to be destroyed to get that.

Too many self-proclaimed 'animal lovers' would never knowingly pay to hurt something right? :screwy:
 
watching the air hammer kill a cow was one of the oddest things. It looked pretty quick. I am all for keeping animals in humane conditions and killing them as humanely possible. I am also pro meat.
 
davo;2931353; said:
watching the air hammer kill a cow was one of the oddest things. It looked pretty quick. I am all for keeping animals in humane conditions and killing them as humanely possible. I am also pro meat.

While the method in which they are killed may be debatable, i think one would be hard pressed to find the conditions humane.
 
The conditions livestock suffer is inarguably inhumane for anything rational person. Tradition and experience has made many people callous to the suffering of livestock, but that doesn't excuse it.

I worry less about the method of euthanasia than I do the method of long term care. Even so, I'd feel a lot better about it if some of the wack jobs didn't seem to enjoy the suffering so much! There's no excuse to be giggling and laughing while you're hanging a sentient being to death.

I eat meat, I hunt, and I have no illusions about the reality of meat production, but that doesn't blind me to the absurd treatment of animals in captivity.
 
reverse;2922614; said:
I was raised in the country, raising farm animals, culling them and slaughtering them are an everyday part of life. The people who think everyday is pretty and the sun always shines, should give up eating meat.

If they do give up eating meat, have them raise their own vegetables, that business is not as pretty as running down to the "organic market" and picking up some carrots.

The world is a tough place.

I am not conflicted in any way shape or form.


True. If you have a problem with this kind of cruelty go vegan. Then you have betching rights.
 
It's possible to both eat meat and to be respectful of life.

That "it's a business" is not an excuse for people to get off on being sadistic to animals.

(Some would argue intentional) Lack of government oversight over the food industry has resulted in some serious problems in the food industry. Again, I eat meat...but I'd like to see more and stronger enforcement of food laws.

Read Upton Sinclair's "The Jungle" if you want a taste of what led to the first real government crackdown on the food industry (after failing to police itself). The other straw that broke the camel's back was that more Americans died of bad (American) food than anything else in the Spanish-American War.
 
dogofwar;2931585; said:
It's possible to both eat meat and to be respectful of life.

That "it's a business" is not an excuse for people to get off on being sadistic to animals.

(Some would argue intentional) Lack of government oversight over the food industry has resulted in some serious problems in the food industry. Again, I eat meat...but I'd like to see more and stronger enforcement of food laws.

Read Upton Sinclair's "The Jungle" if you want a taste of what led to the first real government crackdown on the food industry (after failing to police itself). The other straw that broke the camel's back was that more Americans died of bad (American) food than anything else in the Spanish-American War.

i mentioned 'the jungle' and although it is good for seeing how it lead to the government crackdown on it, i think things have only gotten worse.
like u said about the sadism to the animals, i thinks that where it has gotten worse. people think they can take it out on them and they dont get caught because people find it too risky to report them and the government dont do their inspections as often as they should.
 
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