HELP....my fish are all dead...

[SimonL]

Dude what are you doing?

Parasites live in all tanks. Its bad conditions that bring them out and cause outbreaks... For instance cancer is in all our bodies and has the potential to outbreak killing us. You didn't have a heater or correct salinity. That cause an outbreak.

Did you even cycle the tank? It sounds like you put your fish in the middle of a cycle and the amonia spikes and nitrite spikes killed them

Why does everyone always jump to bacteria and diseaseas..... they live in the water no matter what. Its how you control them is key.


You need to get a water test and most likely re cycle your tank. You should also purchase a book to know how to properly set up an aquarium because if you dont know you need a heater you are very wrong. Do you even have a skimmer?

What size tank?

What are the water test results?



People you need to identify the problem not the outbreak, who cares if ich or other things killed the fish they where brought upon by other things.


AND DONT MEDICATE YOUR TANKS. Medication kills fish whether you believe it or not. Proper care of an aquarium and knowing what your doing can be the best thing you can ever do for a sick fish. A fish doesn't get sick in a clean cycled well cared for tank.

I'm not getting into the human/cancer debate...but this is the best advice on here. Understanding how to set-up a SW tank, it's rhythms and chemistry is far more important than treating diseases. In a properly set-up tank, with properly QT'd fish, you would likely never have to treat disease.

The OP, from his opening post, clearly has no idea how to properly set up a marine tank...I mean no heater??? Salinity a "little high"? Considering most LFS keep their salt levels very low (1.015-1.018) to combat cost and parasites, being dumped into a much higher salt without acclimation over a week could easily cause an outbreak of disease or death. "Almost no nitrate, ammonia or nitrite"? Sounds like the tank may not have been cycled.

Buying a book on marine aquariums is the best advice here.

Also, Green Morays rule

 

[dxdx]

I'm pretty new here so I'm not trying to get off to a bad start. The thread should stick to the OP but when somebody says these kinds of things it needs to be called out in case anyone may believe it.

Your claim that many people are cured of cancer by lasers, but the doctors are only in it for the money is ridiculous and hypocritical since you work for a 'curative laser' company. There's nothing more predatory than making money off people's fear of cancer by selling them junk science.

You're mixing some reasonable ideas with complete falsehoods. Sure, you shouldn't try to medicate everything away but sometimes medicine is necessary.

My wife had our daughter at home to avoid doctors and the medicalization of natural child birth. But when our daughter was diagnosed with cancer last year at the age of 1, we sure weren't out laser shopping and trying to work on her mind body and spirit health. You watch your child who's almost walking regress to the point where she can't even sit up on her own and tell me you're not going to a doctor!

Fortunately, surgery removed her tumor and the neurological disorder that she developed is being treated with three different drugs that are working. I've seen the alternative treatments for her disorder, and I wouldn't have it any other way. It's not a fake security blanket. You think you cried over a dead bumblebee grouper, wait until you have a child that shakes so bad they cannot function. I hope you'd be man enough to admit you were wrong and get treatment.

 

[TheCanuck]

I'm not getting into the human/cancer debate...but this is the best advice on here. Understanding how to set-up a SW tank, it's rhythms and chemistry is far more important than treating diseases. In a properly set-up tank, with properly QT'd fish, you would likely never have to treat disease.

The OP, from his opening post, clearly has no idea how to properly set up a marine tank...I mean no heater??? Salinity a "little high"? Considering most LFS keep their salt levels very low (1.015-1.018) to combat cost and parasites, being dumped into a much higher salt without acclimation over a week could easily cause an outbreak of disease or death. "Almost no nitrate, ammonia or nitrite"? Sounds like the tank may not have been cycled.

Buying a book on marine aquariums is the best advice here.

Also, Green Morays rule

He looks just like my baby!

Wow. You know if simonL isn't disagreeing with me something is wrong. I must say i really do enjoy your taste in fish

 

[SimonL]

Wow. You know if simonL isn't disagreeing with me something is wrong. I must say i really do enjoy your taste in fish

Long as we're not bickering about people's tank sizes lol...

 

[TheCanuck]

Long as we're not bickering about people's tank sizes lol...

Haha alright ill keep that in mind. I have decided not to get another BB grouper, just cant do it. I will be more properly sizing my fish

But when you see me in the DIY section with a 50k tank you know whats going on

 

[TheCanuck]

I'm pretty new here so I'm not trying to get off to a bad start. The thread should stick to the OP but when somebody says these kinds of things it needs to be called out in case anyone may believe it.

Your claim that many people are cured of cancer by lasers, but the doctors are only in it for the money is ridiculous and hypocritical since you work for a 'curative laser' company. There's nothing more predatory than making money off people's fear of cancer by selling them junk science.

You're mixing some reasonable ideas with complete falsehoods. Sure, you shouldn't try to medicate everything away but sometimes medicine is necessary.

My wife had our daughter at home to avoid doctors and the medicalization of natural child birth. But when our daughter was diagnosed with cancer last year at the age of 1, we sure weren't out laser shopping and trying to work on her mind body and spirit health. You watch your child who's almost walking regress to the point where she can't even sit up on her own and tell me you're not going to a doctor!

Fortunately, surgery removed her tumor and the neurological disorder that she developed is being treated with three different drugs that are working. I've seen the alternative treatments for her disorder, and I wouldn't have it any other way. It's not a fake security blanket. You think you cried over a dead bumblebee grouper, wait until you have a child that shakes so bad they cannot function. I hope you'd be man enough to admit you were wrong and get treatment.

Pmed,

once again we are all for the cure. It doesn't matter which direction it goes as long as we get more bullet proof results.

I couldn't say i disagree with anything that is working.

 

[Pazzoman]

Nice moray eels, one day when I get a bigger tank, how many gallons does a green moray need to live comfortable? Also I hate to say it in out world it is always about money. TheCanuck is right, let's say for example if thier was a car that was developed to never break down, many company would lose buisness. Which is why many companies make cars with material that last about 10 years so people spend more moneY. If thier was a cure of cancer, which is what normaly takes the lives of many people like my family for instance. Cancer is the number one disease that end's members of my family. My uncle at 54 a very healthy man, always watched what he ate, attended doctors monthly and what happened he suddenly past away due to cancer. I will always miss him. If thier was a cure, think about it we would be going to doctors for help if thier was a cure? Nothing lasts forever I hate to say it.

 

[johnnunez29]

wow.dxdx.im so sorry you had to go through that.your 100% correct.who cares who makes it or who makes money?if it works.and simonL thanks for the input and your right i have no idea about setting up sw.im a freshwater tanganyikan fish guy.i did not do a ton of research but i did do some.i should have bought a heater.i cycled my tank for a month or so.about my nitrates and all that.what i meant was that they were good.not zero but good.i do not have a quarantine tank for sw fish.i do have one for fw fish.i just bought a hob refugium with built in protein skimmer.also have a heater.you know how everyone has their own opinions on what is needed and what is not.if i bought everything that they sold i would spend over 2k on a tank and that not going to happen.someone told me today to get a chiller.i asked "how much"? 500.00 was the reply.omg.no chiller for me lol.i paid less than that for tank,stand powercompacts.etc everything including rocks and dead fish.but anyways i turned the heat up to 78 f.im going to do a nice water change and add nite-out and special blend.see if that does any good.but im going to assume it was ich and it does stay in the system for about a month or so.so no fishies for me.damn it.should just done some calvus or shellies.lol

 

[TheCanuck]

wow.dxdx.im so sorry you had to go through that.your 100% correct.who cares who makes it or who makes money?if it works.and simonL thanks for the input and your right i have no idea about setting up sw.im a freshwater tanganyikan fish guy.i did not do a ton of research but i did do some.i should have bought a heater.i cycled my tank for a month or so.about my nitrates and all that.what i meant was that they were good.not zero but good.i do not have a quarantine tank for sw fish.i do have one for fw fish.i just bought a hob refugium with built in protein skimmer.also have a heater.you know how everyone has their own opinions on what is needed and what is not.if i bought everything that they sold i would spend over 2k on a tank and that not going to happen.someone told me today to get a chiller.i asked "how much"? 500.00 was the reply.omg.no chiller for me lol.i paid less than that for tank,stand powercompacts.etc everything including rocks and dead fish.but anyways i turned the heat up to 78 f.im going to do a nice water change and add nite-out and special blend.see if that does any good.but im going to assume it was ich and it does stay in the system for about a month or so.so no fishies for me.damn it.should just done some calvus or shellies.lol

Hob refugium?! lol your on more than the right tracks now sir.

Remember prevention to problems is key. Nothing can go wrong if all your needs are in check... temp, water quality, salinity, proper feeding, adequate equipment.

Don't be afraid to ask for help here. I know how it feels when lfs tries to sell you the store.

 

[Mazcote Yarquest]

I'm pretty new here so I'm not trying to get off to a bad start. The thread should stick to the OP but when somebody says these kinds of things it needs to be called out in case anyone may believe it.

Your claim that many people are cured of cancer by lasers, but the doctors are only in it for the money is ridiculous and hypocritical since you work for a 'curative laser' company. There's nothing more predatory than making money off people's fear of cancer by selling them junk science.

You're mixing some reasonable ideas with complete falsehoods. Sure, you shouldn't try to medicate everything away but sometimes medicine is necessary.

My wife had our daughter at home to avoid doctors and the medicalization of natural child birth. But when our daughter was diagnosed with cancer last year at the age of 1, we sure weren't out laser shopping and trying to work on her mind body and spirit health. You watch your child who's almost walking regress to the point where she can't even sit up on her own and tell me you're not going to a doctor!

Fortunately, surgery removed her tumor and the neurological disorder that she developed is being treated with three different drugs that are working. I've seen the alternative treatments for her disorder, and I wouldn't have it any other way. It's not a fake security blanket. You think you cried over a dead bumblebee grouper, wait until you have a child that shakes so bad they cannot function. I hope you'd be man enough to admit you were wrong and get treatment.

I gotta pipe in on this comment, I have a 2 year old daughter and doubt I could bear to watch this, God bless you man god bless her first.

I am a christian man but feel free to substitute the god of your choice.

And for the record, TheCanuck is spot on!