"HELP..." TSN won't eat. (has sunkin in tummy)

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Ric Foster;3237563; said:
Well thanks for the replies guys. I won't ever feed live anything to any of my fish but thanks for the suggestion. I am just too afraid of something in live foods hurting my fish. I have been feeding Chunks of fish fillets since he was a baby. (quailty good for human consumption) Is it possible he just all of a sudden decides he no longer likes it? I tried cut up chicken heart today with no luck.



He's 14"

give him something relatively safe live like shrimp or nightcralwers...hate to go against your theory but maybe feeding it something it will eat is better than not risking it right now
 
ok just read through the whole link added and saw that you have tried nightcrawlers, i think you really need to get some live and see if that works (you can buy tetras or barbs if you don't feel safe with usual feeder fish) because that tsn is way too skinny.
 
snyder810;3238291; said:
ok just read through the whole link added and saw that you have tried nightcrawlers, i think you really need to get some live and see if that works (you can buy tetras or barbs if you don't feel safe with usual feeder fish) because that tsn is way too skinny.

Thanks for your help. I really appriciate it. I have taken the issue to planetcatfish.com and the guys there say it is nitrate poisoning. They say that a TSN wont eat if nitrates are too high. The video shows the gills flaring which they say is a sign that the fish is stressed due to high nitrates. My reading for nitrates goes between 40 and 20 but I guess thats still too high. For now (1st day) I will be doing daily water changes and double dosing with prime. As well as trying to feed daily untill he eats. I'll keep posting till he is better and starts eating.
 
hope ur tsn is going to improve. i hate to see such a nice fish go. but i would try to feed feeders since imo if a tsn doesnt go for a live fish that he can eat something has to be wrong.
 
if your nitrates are normally 20-40 ppm then either you need to do more regular WC's habitually or upgrade your filtration system, or downsize your bio-load. It's a quick fix what your doing and you will run into the same issue again if you don't change something. imo.

What are your Nitrites at? That will not only poison your tsn but your whole tank and do long term damage if left "un-fixed"
 
Nitrate readings of between 20 and 40 are fine imo, if it were more like 120 then I would be worried, but not 20/40.

And no amount of normal filtration is going to change the nitrates, only water changes, (or lots of plants, sumps with plants etc, but I digress).

Its not nitrate poisoning, hell my tap water comes out at 20ppm in nitrates and I havent lost a fish *touches wood* in literaly years and years.
 
Update for you guys. The guys at planet catfish determined that My unknown catfish in the tank with my TSN is an Asain RTC and is probably harasing the TSN and has him stressed. So, I have removed the Asain RTC to his own tank. I am doing daily 50% water changes. No3 is down to 10-20. I am going to get some live feeders today to stimulate the TSN to eat now. I will keep you guys updated.


Your unknown catfish is Hemibagrus wyckioides
quote from planet catfish cat e-log data sheet
"Not compatible with other fishes due to its nasty disposition. Many claim that H. wyckioides is the most aggressive freshwater fish in the world. Given this fish's ability to bite, it is not even safe with tank mates too large to swallow since it will simply take bites out them."
 
shrimp pellets may work
did you grow this fish to current size?
if you didn't grow it than it may have ben feeding on pellets onle
 
TSN died. 07-04-09
Can someone identify the problem with the gill material. I never seen this till I was inspecting the dead body. I am sure this is the cause of death. 50% of the gill material is eaten away and black.

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