Help with Satanoperca ID

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It's about 5 inch long.



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Hmmmmmm ... not quite so sure ... I'm not seeing the row of bright, reflective scale under the dorsal fin S. leucostitca has. I see a couple of lighter scales, but they should be just as reflective as the facial spotting. And the blues/coppers might indicate it might be something else. Might want to have JK47 take a peek at the pics.
 
darth pike;5158205; said:
Hmmmmmm ... not quite so sure ... I'm not seeing the row of bright, reflective scale under the dorsal fin S. leucostitca has. I see a couple of lighter scales, but they should be just as reflective as the facial spotting. And the blues/coppers might indicate it might be something else. Might want to have JK47 take a peek at the pics.

I'm with Chris on this one. I would lean heavily more towards Satanoperca mapiritensis than a Satanoperca leucosticta varient based on a visual ID only. The lack of any spotting under the dorsal, the bland pattern on the flanks and the iridescent green spotting on the muzzle/snout are more characteristics of S. mapiritensis. I have a group of S. mapiritensis roughly at the exact same size and is identical in every way to the fish pictured.

Do you have any other information on the fish? Wild caught (if so collection location), captive bred, source of the fish?
 
Found a decent (for me anyway) pic for reference. Please keep in mind the flash is on with my camera. The Hyphessobrycon columbianus above one of the smaller females is 2" TL for size reference (pretty large tetra species)

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peathenster;5158499; said:
I was looking for a row of reflective scales under the dorsal fin in OP's pics before I replied, and I thought I saw it.....maybe more pics would help.

It's a tough call for sure you could easily be right, it seemed less prominent than in most other examples I've seen so that's why I was leaning more the other direction. Both my smaller female maps have a slight pale discoloration under the dorsal like what interpreted to be in the OP's pic to be but not the iridescent spangling that most leuco's display. Hopefully we can get a few more pics and background info to be sure.

It's so tough to be 100% sure with all of the geographical variants of leuco's out there and no collection/origin info from the OP.
 
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