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AussieMonster

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I have kept alot of australian natives and arowana's. but i now have a tank 6x2x2 full of african cichlids im going to trade them in and try out sa ca cichlids instead what i thought was

2x (m/f) green terrors
3x jaguars
2x jack dempsys
2x red devils
2x texas cichlids

i like lots of colours large size's and aggression ( i like it when they come up to you in the tank ) personable fish are ones i like., im sorry but im a real noob with sa/ca cichlids please any information will help me alot thanks!!!
 
That combination will likely have lots of aggression problems... especially should one of them pair off... honestly... if i were you i'd get 6 or so baby jags and once you get a pair take the rest back...
 
well its either sa ca cichlids or my murray cod will have that tank., im looking for more of an aggresive community then just a pair of fish., i like the look of green terrors and jack dempsys., where would the aggression stem from? id rather cut the red devils of the list but i am not sure?. anybody have a suggestion what would you do with an empty 6x2x2
 
1 jd 1 gt 1 carpintis maybe 1 jag dithers
 
If any two of the fish in the list were to pair you'd probably have real problems with aggression. If the GT's would pair off you may be okay, if the JD would pair off you'd probably be okay. I always discourage RD tankmates when dealing with M/F pairs due to problems I've had in the past. All of them are big maybe's.

I am just starting to research and look into AC and mbuna, from what I understand overstocking is often good in that is spreads out aggression, but IME with CA and SA cichlids the opposite is usually true. You can start out with this stock, but I doubt you'll have them all by the time they are adults.
 
so your suggesting that they are aggresive in pairs? sorry guys but i really dont under stand., can someone hit me with the sa ca bascis?

yeah i have the tank full of mbuna now,. almost no aggresion the feeder koi are more aggresive.,
 
Yah thats not really a good choice IMO... the GT's, RD and Jag's will cause you a lot of headache and put a bad vibe in a tank of that size all kept in together... they need a lot of space when they mature (1 metre squared as territory approx in the wild which they will defend to the death when sexually mature) and its only going to cause problems down the road in that footprint tank.

One way of doing it would be to have a bare tank... so that they cant get territorial over anything like a rock or log.... but then you dont have a pretty tank to look at.

Be carefull what you wish for is all i say... aggression in cichlids is not a good trait really if you want to keep more than one fish in a tank ;)
(and when they mature, they all get boistrous... even so called community fish like keyholes and firemouths hehe)
 
AussieMonster;3371735; said:
so your suggesting that they are aggresive in pairs? sorry guys but i really dont under stand., can someone hit me with the sa ca bascis?
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Well no... but when sexually mature if they pair off to breed they will kill pretty much anything in sight or try to... 6X2X2 is a big assed tank but not that big... thesec are the most aggressive SA / CA cichlids that you get... and they have this reputation for a reason... putting them all together in a tank in those numbers will only lead to a lot of bloodshed

Theres ways of alleviating this aggresion... like taking out everything so theres nothing to fight over in terms of territory (kinda like an LFS) but youll always have a fight for dominance and its not fun seeing your fish getting beaten up day after day.

If anything, I wouldnt go for pairs, but for seperate fish (1GT, one RD and one GT...) and split the tank accordingly so they all can establish their own spacfde and not nest, but only if you really had too.


EDIT: thats not to say you cant get your colour and variation elsewhere... just the fish your particularily chosen as known as the bruiser heavyweights of the cichlid world and putting them all together is not to be taken lightly ;)
 
AussieMonster;3371735; said:
so your suggesting that they are aggresive in pairs? sorry guys but i really dont under stand., can someone hit me with the sa ca bascis?

yeah i have the tank full of mbuna now,. almost no aggresion the feeder koi are more aggresive.,
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When they pair off as adults, they go into uber territorial mode. Anything that enters their space is owned by them and if it cannot be owned by them, it must leave the space or die, basically.

In an aquarium, there isn't a lot of places to go. So Mom and Dad don't chase an intruder off, they just kill them.

There was someone who had 5 JD's in a 60 on here not to long ago I think, once a male and female pair was established he had 2 JD's in his tank. And that is probably the most peaceful cichlid you are planning to put in your tank.
 
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