here is my BLACK JD!!!!!

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NORMAL...but not stressed out. I had a female that paired up with my male ebjd and she got very dark colours. Their were the dominant fish in the tank and she kept that colour for 4 years and when the male ebjd died, their territory was taken by a carpintis ansd she turned gray/white within a day. Nothing special about your fish , man..Just a regular jd with alomost no blue in it...sorry.
 
BC in SK;2755900; said:
I don't agree with the idea that dark coloration for a juvie JD means stressed. Usually the opposite. For a juvie JD it generally means well adapted and dominant. Now a light, pale or washed out color COULD mean stressed for a juvie JD.

Amongst very young JD, the dominant fish ( usually male) will be darkest. Seen it time after time in my own tanks, and especially so at LFS over the years. I've seen the dominant male amongst juvie JD's all dark, chasing the **** out of every other juvie dempsey in the tank ( who are all pale and scared, trying to hide) at pet shops so many times. Don't tell me the dark dominant fish acting tough and all confident is stressed:ROFL: Now the pale ones trying to hide, all scared and nervous are definately stressed.


Of course once they grow a bit, JD start to get more colorfull ---- bright metalic blues, though the darker coloration can return when they breed, especially for females.


I tend to agree with this theory, although your little female (my opinion) may very well be special. Grow her out and if she truly is "black" and carries unique genes causing her to be without color, you may want to use her in a selective breeding project. You could breed her with an EBJD and get some black n blue's.
 
yo man dont listen to alot of these fools.....thats a cool JD! most Dempseys at that age are all light brown and ugly but yours looks cool being all black....and also from my experience with JDs is that when they are stressed out they are mostly light tan or brown....I dont think yours is stressed out at all....just raise her see what happens...I think it will turn out to be cool....
 
BC in SK;2755900; said:
I don't agree with the idea that dark coloration for a juvie JD means stressed. Usually the opposite. For a juvie JD it generally means well adapted and dominant. Now a light, pale or washed out color COULD mean stressed for a juvie JD.

Amongst very young JD, the dominant fish ( usually male) will be darkest. Seen it time after time in my own tanks, and especially so at LFS over the years. I've seen the dominant male amongst juvie JD's all dark, chasing the **** out of every other juvie dempsey in the tank ( who are all pale and scared, trying to hide) at pet shops so many times. Don't tell me the dark dominant fish acting tough and all confident is stressed:ROFL: Now the pale ones trying to hide, all scared and nervous are definately stressed.

Of course once they grow a bit, JD start to get more colorfull ---- bright metalic blues, though the darker coloration can return when they breed, especially for females.

I've seen quite the opposite. I've purchased it. The tiny little beat-on JD, jet black and purchased it, not knowing better, thinking it would stay that way but didn't. She turned out to be a beautiful normal female.
The jet black coloration may not necessarily mean stressed 100% of the time but it certainly doesn't mean it's dominance colors 100% of the time either cause I have seen tanks full of jet black JDs lorded over by a very nice normal looking dominant fish of either gender or spawning pair.
 
Camphilophus;2753016; said:
Finding a short bodied texas in the same tank as the "regular ones" is nothing special. It was probably the runt out of the group and the guy selling it to you probably couldn't believe you were taking the one with the weakest genetics. And an "albino veil tail oscar is just a made up name to sell a common fish to a stupid person for more $. Who would want line bred fish when you can have pure f0's and f1's? If you shopped at a real fish store all the fish would probably look the same because they wouldn't be line bred and they wouldn't be hybrids. My LFS doesn't get blue gills in with their shipments because they order their fish from good suppliers. Just letting you know you should be buying your fish from better places if you intend on breeding them.

i agree with everything in that statement, but veil tail oscars are not just 'made up names to sell a common fish fish to a stupid person for more $'.
 
GTbEaSt;2756065; said:
yo man dont listen to alot of these fools.....thats a cool JD! most Dempseys at that age are all light brown and ugly but yours looks cool being all black....and also from my experience with JDs is that when they are stressed out they are mostly light tan or brown....I dont think yours is stressed out at all....just raise her see what happens...I think it will turn out to be cool....


WRONG!
Just had to get in on this.
Sure its cool, they all are :D

Its a normal JD...

I've had JDs since i started this hobby and I've been breeding them..
Most cichlids can change there colors..
Stress related or as i like to say Just showing off..
Just look..
All my babies are under close to or barely larger then an inch..
[and gorgeous] :D

Ps..all my babies are special :D :D

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the top pic is of the two jds i bought just over a year ago from the same tank, and they were the same size. now the lighter one is twice the size(almost) as the darker one. light one is a male and the dark one is a female. she has never been much lighter tham she is in these pics. still... to answer the question... it's a normal dark female jd.

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