high nitrate

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This is not apples and oranges, its two different apples.
 
thaks for all of that well the parts i understood lol
all i want is low nitrates and how to get them
i dont have a sump but it is something i am looking into i just dont have the cash at the moment i did try floating plants but they never seem to survive and as i said before my recent floating plants got pulled down to the powerhead thats why i thought with the balls they should be ok i dont really like them but if they would help i will get some.
 
well its apple and orange or two differrent aples whatever you wish. but they are not the same! that's what i mean...that's all!!! :)
 
star_fire;4516837; said:
funny i guess. i have never had nitrate problems in my fish tanks. i have always kept live plants which i try to give proper lighting to so they will grow and look nice. i use amazon swords and anubias barteri. they seem to manage the nitrates really well. one huge amazon sword i had never even had any of that cloud stuff picked up the gravel vac near it. literally the roots consumed everything near them.

water cress is good. it tastes peppery and is edible (the rootswithout the flowers). and it is know to metabolize nitrates so what happened to you toby is odd. maybe because the watercress is from cold ponds and streams it does its job but in a wam system like yours maybe the plant' metabolism slows down (i am not a biologist!). duckweed is good i hear too.
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I have heard that amazon swords are good nitrate machines, I might try some in the sump but I really think that the waste from rays is so large that we might need 10 monster swords.

If I get to build my fish room I plan to have a 300gal stock tank or maybe some aquaponics to deal with the problem.

If I lived in a hot climate I would run a large vegetable filter outside and pump back to my tank.
 
Forgot to add and the iPad would not let me add more to the previous post....

You may well be right about the temp and the watercress, it grew 8inches in length per strand in just 2 weeks, I do not doubt that if you had a massive amount it would do the job.
 
I grow lettuce and spinach on top of my pacu tank. It doesn't help as much as I wish it did. I also have spider plant "spiders" sticking out of every HOB in the house. When they get big I just feed them to my rabbits and put a new spider in.

I don't think it helps much with nitrates, but I enjoy eating the lettuce and the bunnies like the spider plants.
 
andysmith;4517095; said:
thaks for all of that well the parts i understood lol
all i want is low nitrates and how to get them
i dont have a sump but it is something i am looking into i just dont have the cash at the moment i did try floating plants but they never seem to survive and as i said before my recent floating plants got pulled down to the powerhead thats why i thought with the balls they should be ok i dont really like them but if they would help i will get some.
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you could do one for pretty cheap if the purpose was just for plants :) just get a 20 long and a pump and one of ashleys over flows and your all set. btw ashleys over flows are like 5 buck to make the most expensive thing is the pump which you could get a low flow pump like one with 300-400 gph for like 40 bucks and thats about it. nitrate filter :D also you could try a algea scrubber if you have that high of nitrates. those supposedly remove all nitrates if setup right.
 
not sure if water hyacinth is legal over where u r, but if it is legal I'd go out and get some asap. Also , there are plenty of plants that should do well in the dt with rays, just aren't rooted. Water wisteria is a stem plant that does better rooted, but can grow floating, get some form of water weed that will grow like crazy. If you have enough plants in there your nitrate will completly dissapear. I dose 10 ppm of nitrate in my ten gallon every other day and I have trouble getting a reading at the end of the night. If I were you I would start looking into building an algae turf scrubber as well. I'm making my first one tommorrow so I've never had any personal experience with any pro's or cons, but I think it would be worth a shot. If not I'd look into making a refugium at least.
 
thanks i have just been having a look at the algae scrubbers and it may be worth a shot as soon as i get some spare cash i think a sump is going to have to go in and grow some plants in there and i can then sell one of my fx5's is there anything i can stick in there as i only have the filter sponges and al***rog?
 
after years of keeping a stingray, I accepted the fact that high nitrate is a part of the equation. I tried many ways, but my tank always had 50ppm or higher. Now I don't have a ray, my tank nitrate level has remained quite low. I was told that stingrays poo and pee - they polute water more than any other fish
 
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