High price for azuls and kelberi
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dangerhack those rio arguaria are f1s that came from aquascape. But they should turn out to be stunners. Im kickn myself for not buying any....along w/ all the previous wc kelberi shipments. When i have $ none are availableI dont have any complaints about the prices these days. I understand its costs $ to import fish. But i do disagree highly w/ people trying to pass of cb fish as wc.
Agh I see. Yea this kel looks better already then all my Bahia
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Appreciate it dude. Yea def looks like its gonna be my best kelberi though !
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We are not doubting the look of your kelberi, it's the fact that why would people lie about it being wild caught? For faster sales? I know your kelberi will turn out to be a stunner, that's a given. But, yes, aqua scape did bring them in and yes, they are kelberi's.
Yea I'm not as knowledged on cichla as some of you.. I've been only into cichla for like 2 years I've been reading an getting into it.. I assumed they were wild caught cuz that's what they told me ya know .. The rio meta orinos look great too. Can't wait to see em grow !
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I would love to get one plus some other species but I'm maxed out for now. I got 8 cichla growing out right now in a divided 200 gallon. Ranging from 4 to 6". Got 3 Baha'is 2 monos. 2 rio meta orino an that 1 rip arraguia kel. I plan on selling my house next year an moving an I will be building a 900+ gallon plywood .. U got any pics of venezuela grown out ?
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I had the honor of owning a Ven, but sold it off because I moved, but this thread has a grown, if not, full grown Ven.
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?44698-Cichla-Pics-for-Wes-FuguPuff
Kelberi price is no longer high. It's a lot more affordable now. I think 125-200 is still very affordable. If you guys wanna save then buy them small when they come in. As JL would say you snooze you loose. I do think some fish don't sell in the classified because its priced too high. If a seller is motivated enough to sell he/she will work out an agreed price that both parties feel its fair.
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Ok, I'm going to debunk all this wild and c.b. myth.
with the azuls: there is purportedly a breeder or two in Asia, but they have not produced any off spring yet. The ones shipped out of Brazil, which is the origin of cichla piquiti, some are wild caught and some are captive bred, mixed pretty much together, sent out of a couple of facilities., they breed them locally from wild stock, which really means they're still wild, since they're from the original waters, food, location and people. If from Asia then it would be a different story, and consider this F1 is is reality still wild fish, since the parents are wild and not related.
cichla kelberi "bahia" have a lot of yellow and gold, the one breeder who bred them made half a million dollars selling them, but the original pair was exceptional, it made cover of magazines, and posters., this breeder is a urban legend, he has millions of dollars worth of rare fish, I've seen with my own eyes. When these fish were first made available, people couldn't take their eyes off of them, and they sold so well, since most Asian people like the excessive gold, and red spangles on these fish. Now they're made more available, people are again wanting something different.
There are still some wild cichla kelberi that trickle out of South America, again not in large numbers, and the color out come will vary. Kelberi is one of the most widely distributed peacock bass in Brazil, found in many river systems, supposedly even at Rio DeJenairo
same with cichla melaniae, all the ones you see here are from maybe 2 breeders total, so the numbers as may seem high is just on MFK, most people in the country or world have never even heard of one yet.
Just think back, 10 years ago, there were no kelberi, piquiti, melaniae in the US at all! Appreciate what you have today!
Wes
with the azuls: there is purportedly a breeder or two in Asia, but they have not produced any off spring yet. The ones shipped out of Brazil, which is the origin of cichla piquiti, some are wild caught and some are captive bred, mixed pretty much together, sent out of a couple of facilities., they breed them locally from wild stock, which really means they're still wild, since they're from the original waters, food, location and people. If from Asia then it would be a different story, and consider this F1 is is reality still wild fish, since the parents are wild and not related.
cichla kelberi "bahia" have a lot of yellow and gold, the one breeder who bred them made half a million dollars selling them, but the original pair was exceptional, it made cover of magazines, and posters., this breeder is a urban legend, he has millions of dollars worth of rare fish, I've seen with my own eyes. When these fish were first made available, people couldn't take their eyes off of them, and they sold so well, since most Asian people like the excessive gold, and red spangles on these fish. Now they're made more available, people are again wanting something different.
There are still some wild cichla kelberi that trickle out of South America, again not in large numbers, and the color out come will vary. Kelberi is one of the most widely distributed peacock bass in Brazil, found in many river systems, supposedly even at Rio DeJenairo
same with cichla melaniae, all the ones you see here are from maybe 2 breeders total, so the numbers as may seem high is just on MFK, most people in the country or world have never even heard of one yet.
Just think back, 10 years ago, there were no kelberi, piquiti, melaniae in the US at all! Appreciate what you have today!
Wes
I call bahias duck faces! But yours are nice Ken!
TLC is 80 percent of it Hue... you a show off!! jk
Sorry bradda but the araguias aren't wild
