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HybridHerp said:
I think it might be h. Corymbosa angustofolia


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I think your spot on!
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Little prunning and rearranging. Not to much different but a little cleaner IMO. Hope you like!



Had to cut the tops of my Nesea due to some algae and green growth partially due to my lace leaf blocking light?







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Any tips or suggestions are much appreciated!


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LS2012 said:
Hi, you've probably seen this already, but just in case... Saw this in the TFH magazine archives and thought you might be interested!

http://www.tfhmagazine.com/aquatic-plants/columns/the-secrets-of-the-madagascar-lace-plant.htm

Hope there's new info for you

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Interesting read. Most of what I already gathered apart from the low light requirements w/ no mention of Co2? I do however have a light coating of algae on 2 or so leaves so it makes some sense. I've only had it since fall so I'm intrigued to see what happens in summer!

I feel kind of stupid buying all these rare plants for my first tank and not knowing the care requirements until I brought them home. I mean this lace leaf should be 40-50% of the plant mass in my tank but instead its more like 15-20% & it just doesn't have enough room to be the rare centerpiece that it deserves.

I may be doing a serious overhaul on my tank soon, like literally pulling out a few plants like my huge sword, 50% of the moss and either the nesea or fur + the wisteria mass is out of control.....

By no means am I discrediting myself because I did put a lot of work (plenty being DIY) time and research into my 1st shot @ planteds that I feel given the care levels of some of these plants I did something right.

A lot of thanks comes from members like you LS who are just 1 of many that gave great advice along the way, hopefully when my tank hits the 6 month mark it will become stable and consistent! And hopefully I can figure out a way to eradicate most of these trumpet snails!


Cheers!



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Wait, why eradicate the MTS? I love my snails, I actually make sure to keep them in all of my tanks, especially the trumpet snails. Then again, I also do dirted tanks, so they are super helpful with keeping that from going anaerobic.

Is the nesea growing for you or just sort of sitting there? My gold nessea is taking FOREVER to do anything, in fact in terms of growth rate, I almost want to think of it like a crypt and not a stem. I'm betting the red is probably similar to the gold with that. I wonder if nessea in general prefers harder water, I know certain ammania species prefer that to grow well, and it might hold true, especially since I think they recently re-classified all nesea as ammanian (I think).

I think if you take out the sword and the wisteria, that would free your tank up a bit. The sword is the kind of plant that would take a huge chunk of the nutrients out of your substrate, and coupled with the wisteria that would take a similar portion of nutrients out of the water column, it might make it harder for other plants to grow unless you dosed a lot.

Was this your first attempt at a planted tank? I totally forget and am to lazy to scroll back right now while writing this post lol. If your aim is to have the lace be the focus of the tank though, if you do re-scape, I'd move it to the middle and have a bunch of plants surrounding it, kind of like its on the top of a hill or something, back center. Normally I wouldn't suggest putting anything perfectly centered in a tank but, for some reason, with a plant thats big like this, I could see it working.

Its coming along nicely though man, good job.
 
F1... You took a calculated risk and its clearly produced the desired results. I've NEVER seen a lace plant thrive so much in such a short period of time and would be thrilled to have my pt look like yours! Before my Damba destroyed my lace plants, at their best, they didn't cover more than 15% with 3 bulbs.

2 months ago, I put a gorgeous, huge St. Elmo's Fire plant in my SA cichlid tank. It took less than 3 weeks for my fish to completely decimate the plant. Now, that's stupid :banghead::banghead:

You should be really proud of your accomplishments :):thumbup: I'm sure you know guidelines are very subjective and have innumerable variables which affect potential outcomes!!! Keep up the great work!

BTW, based on reading how others have rid their tanks of snails... Paretroplus Maculatus will accomplish that in a day. And once they've eaten all the snails, they'll go to work on your plants LOL.

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HybridHerp said:
Wait, why eradicate the MTS? I love my snails, I actually make sure to keep them in all of my tanks, especially the trumpet snails. Then again, I also do dirted tanks, so they are super helpful with keeping that from going anaerobic.

Is the nesea growing for you or just sort of sitting there? My gold nessea is taking FOREVER to do anything, in fact in terms of growth rate, I almost want to think of it like a crypt and not a stem. I'm betting the red is probably similar to the gold with that. I wonder if nessea in general prefers harder water, I know certain ammania species prefer that to grow well, and it might hold true, especially since I think they recently re-classified all nesea as ammanian (I think).

I think if you take out the sword and the wisteria, that would free your tank up a bit. The sword is the kind of plant that would take a huge chunk of the nutrients out of your substrate, and coupled with the wisteria that would take a similar portion of nutrients out of the water column, it might make it harder for other plants to grow unless you dosed a lot.

Was this your first attempt at a planted tank? I totally forget and am to lazy to scroll back right now while writing this post lol. If your aim is to have the lace be the focus of the tank though, if you do re-scape, I'd move it to the middle and have a bunch of plants surrounding it, kind of like its on the top of a hill or something, back center. Normally I wouldn't suggest putting anything perfectly centered in a tank but, for some reason, with a plant thats big like this, I could see it working.

Its coming along nicely though man, good job.
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Like literally there are hundreds of snails, if you look closely their everywhere. I like them to but now I'm getting these "half shell" looking snails and their appearing more abundant everyday! My assassins don't seem to do much with them but my piranha will nibble a few off the glass here and there.

The nesea grew the 1st month or two but the last couple weeks its just stayed there and developed algae on the top hence why I cut the tops. Also my piranha tends to thrash around when he gets excited and has uprooted a few stems same with my furcata(sp?)

It is my 1st attempt at a planted tank apart from my pothos venture. Luckily I have received good advice and gathered good equipment to make it all possible. Dry fertz, injected co2, nutritious substrate and good lighting with EI dosing have helped to keep this tank going. A lot of Tom Barr's articles have helped as well

I really want to center this tank around the fish which can be hard with predators. Appreciate your kind words :)

LS2012 said:
F1... You took a calculated risk and its clearly produced the desired results. I've NEVER seen a lace plant thrive so much in such a short period of time and would be thrilled to have my pt look like yours! Before my Damba destroyed my lace plants, at their best, they didn't cover more than 15% with 3 bulbs.

2 months ago, I put a gorgeous, huge St. Elmo's Fire plant in my SA cichlid tank. It took less than 3 weeks for my fish to completely decimate the plant. Now, that's stupid :banghead::banghead:

You should be really proud of your accomplishments :):thumbup: I'm sure you know guidelines are very subjective and have innumerable variables which affect potential outcomes!!! Keep up the great work!

BTW, based on reading how others have rid their tanks of snails... Paretroplus Maculatus will accomplish that in a day. And once they've eaten all the snails, they'll go to work on your plants LOL.

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Yea I defied the odds with the lace. I attribute that to my substrate and co2 because my temp is consistently 80°. I guess the whole planted tank thing is a calculated risk and I've gotten lucky here and there but your right a lot of work goes into these. Definitely can't just throw plants in a tank and expect good results, so many factors come into play and I guess luck is one tiny part of the equation.

Thanks LS for always being positive, last thing I should be doing is stressing over a planted tank, I should be enjoying it but the fish to plant combo is what stresses me, I know I can crank co2 higher and I prlly should with this light but once I see him start to gasp a little I can't justify that for any plant.

He is a special and rare little guy







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You can actually see my swords now!




Nesea is doing better


Java fern has some crazy roots growing above substrate





Here's a better shot of my lighting, 2x 65watt 4 pin cfl 6500k outdoor floodlight fixtures for a total of 130watts and it has a great reflector! Xmas lights are obviously moonlight's :)



What kind of snails are these? Almost a clear shell, looks like sw?


Thanks for looking





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