"Highly Desirable" to import?

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Blue Crab of PAIN!!!!;4749205; said:
Ooh, you have a smooth front? One of the two dwarf caiman is supposed to be extremely aggressive but I don't know which one it is. How is yours behavior wise?

She is a *****. Very aggressive, but skittish so that is saving me atm. When she gets some size she wont be as skittish and thats when im gonna worry.

There is a link to my build in my sig. It says come meet claudia. I cant believe someone hasnt seen that build yet, esp someone in the reptile forum

edit, here ya go!!

page 79 is most recent pics i think, maybe a few after that. there also is some vids of her with a link to that thread twords the end of the build

edit* videos

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=378508

build*

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=284318
 
coura;4749211; said:
You see Dracos on kingsnake, I dont agree we need more, first people have to figure out how to keep them alive and well, then we can have rarer ones otherwise its just a waste of animals. Dracos are allmost like the lizard equivalent of the moorish idol, over 90 % of the wc ones die. People have actually already sucssed in keeping and breeding them...the thing is you have to get them from a good sorce that took really good care of them, get those lizards fed and hydrated...and of corse the fun part have a huge tropical greenhouse for them, then you will get some long lived dracos, otherwise dont even try. I think wc Dracos is really just for people with such facilities and HUGE Draco experience. Maybe some day cb ones will be able to be kept in smaller terraria and be more used to captive foods.
As for the rest of the species, here in Europe there are already a good handfull of people with chinese gators. Fidji igs would only need to be allowed privatly in the states, they are triving in Europe, to the point that some higher end keepers are trading their fidjis for rarer monitors like pilbaras and kimberlys. I would say a few more singlebacks wouldnt hurt but they are on the increase. There are a few guys here that ONLY do singlebacks, they have those really owesame red ones and the few they produce go straigh for Japan.
Big head turtles, some more unrepresented asian turtle species, several boids and rare lacertids,....we could use more founder stock of quite a few species :)

Very good point on the draco. I wasent saying they were a fitting species for captivity but they would be nice to see them. I am tellin you, we need to get some people together and see if we can get ahold of these species and come up with a decent breeding population of some of these animals.
 
Etunes;4749424; said:
Very good point on the draco. I wasent saying they were a fitting species for captivity but they would be nice to see them. I am tellin you, we need to get some people together and see if we can get ahold of these species and come up with a decent breeding population of some of these animals.
The key would be to have very eficient shipping and them going straigth for their final enclosure. Then we have a shot at it :)
 
Komodos are plentifull in zoos and if you ask me not a priority to get more breeding if compared with species like Varanus macraei, Varanus becari and so many other much more rare species. In Europe several people that have relationships with zoos keep them and they exist in a limbo between private keeping and public zoos. I think that is how komodos belong in private keeping, in US they would simply need to be allowed in that kind of way.
 
I'm sorry, but I honestly cannot bring myself to believe that allowing Komodo Dragons to be available to the general public is a good idea. Granted, they're probably going to be disgustingly expensive (I'd say AT LEAST ten thousand dollars) the price will eventually go down and, lets face it, there are just some people who do not know how to properly take care of a lizard. There are already enough people with highly aggressive and poorly cared for pets [of all kinds] that either attack their owners, other people, or end up in animal shelters. Now imagine how much worse that would be if the animal in question was the largest venomous animal in the world that can run about as fast as you can?
....that aside, I wouldn't mind having one myself once I have a place of my own. Perhaps they could be allowed in a case-by-case basis (i.e. permits or something). They also evidently have the best personality of all the lizards, are very fond of their owners if well cared for, and is the only one to irrefutably exhibit play behavior.

Anyway, I thought of something else to add to the list.
The Terror Skink:
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It's a big skink with sharp, pointed teeth indicating that it's main diet is.. well, stuff like lizards, snakes, small flightless birds, and rodents. I don't think that these should necessarily be pets, at first. These lizards were thought to be extinct since the 1800's and has only been rediscovered in 2003. I think they should be brought into captivity to ensure their future survival. I'd hate to see these things to extinct a SECOND time.
 
Like coura said,Chinese Gators and Fiji Iguanas are readily available in the UK and Europe.Regarding Dracos-these are available on many import lists,i dont touch them as their not suitable captives for the general keeper.They dont ship well and need ants to really thrive.
 
Im amazed that you guys thought i was serious. I love komodos but making them legal would probably be a bad idea. Can you imagine somebody living in a city with a 12 foot lizard that can run you down like a damn cheetah and the kill you with a deadly bite? Ill stick to my blue tegus. I probably coundnt get as comfortable with a komodo as i do with my blues walking around and exploring my kitchen.
 
Joe M;4751812; said:
Im amazed that you guys thought i was serious. I love komodos but making them legal would probably be a bad idea. Can you imagine somebody living in a city with a 12 foot lizard that can run you down like a damn cheetah and the kill you with a deadly bite? Ill stick to my blue tegus. I probably coundnt get as comfortable with a komodo as i do with my blues walking around and exploring my kitchen.

While i agree with you, croc monitors are pretty close in terms of danger and they are legal.
 
Terror skinks as any species of insular reptiles is a good candidate for being kept in captivity and that can indeed assure its future survival, just look at what happened with crested geckos. However in this cases of new species Im defenetly pro a very causious and carefull aproach, we need to be shure that species trives in captivity and is able to breed in human care, so inicialy only a very small number of animals should be allowed into the hands of very experienced people.
 
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