"Highly Desirable" to import?

[Lepisosteus platyrhincus]

I dont think crocs should be legal to have without a permit and in my opinion one facility inspection to make shure the keepers has the space to keep this animal happy. Nothing major but needed.

I believe everything should be legal. And im 100% against permits.

 

[HPIZZLE]

I believe everything should be legal. And im 100% against permits.

you think in different ways that i dont agree with or think is logical.

 

[Lepisosteus platyrhincus]

Congrats for not agreeing. Im a bit of an odd person. Iv explained y im against permits 1000 times.

 

[Joe M]

1) a lot of that killing power comes from bacteria in their saliva which they don't have in captivity.
2) yes, they have venom, but so do all other monitors, including crocodile monitors
3) komodo dragons are fairly docile in captivity, and will even come to be petted. croc monitors, on the other hand, are incredibly difficult to tame, and even then they still have a short fuse, and could turn on you at any minute.
4) crocodile monitors are actually the longer (not heavier) i have heard of them reaching 12-13 feet.

in short, they both have deadly potential. i would much rather have the more docile one, which is also a lot heavier, and probably slower. croc monitors are climbers, and are strong and lightweight. komodo dragons are stronger, but they also weigh a lot more. if i had to guess, i'd say the croc monitor is faster.

so, if you had to pick one..
croc monitor: fast, usually very aggressive, and unpredictable.
komodo: a little slower, usually docile.

i think i know which i'd pick..

1) Wrong. Their killing power comes from a deadly bacteria. see link below.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/05/090518-komodo-dragon-venom.html
2) Croc monitor may have venom, but a bite wont kill. never a monitor bite that caused death in US. see link.
http://sites.google.com/site/venomousdangerous/lizards/venomous-lizards-of-the
3) A species of lizard is never docile. A certain specimen may be, But it takes work. Your more than welcome to work with a venomous lizard if you want, but id prefer to work with a non-deadly croc monitor.
4) Longer yes, but a fifth of the weight.

And did you really say komodos are generally docile? What source does this come from?

 

[Blue Crab of PAIN!!!!]

And did you really say komodos are generally docile? What source does this come from?

I think that's anecdotal from various zoo keepers. If you can find this one PBS/NOVA documentary on monitor lizards it describes this pretty well.

 

[Blue Crab of PAIN!!!!]

I believe everything should be legal. And im 100% against permits.

I WOULD agree with you but only if people in general made more intelligent, educated decisions. Until they start doing so, well, maybe they just should be allowed to get near certain things. Like those little kids and parents who buy $30 baby nile monitors; never really realizing what exactly kind of animal they just decided to take on.


I should actually think of a better example. There's nothing wrong with nile monitors themselves, they're just too cheap and easily accessible. $150 is a good price for a Tegu, $30 is not a good price for any of the big monitors. HUGE crocodilians, HUGE constrictors and venomous snakes probably fit the bill of "needs a permit" better. Because, lets face it, there are just too many stupid people out there.

 

[Lepisosteus platyrhincus]

Look into PA's permit process for an exotic cat. nuff said.

 

[Joe M]

Cant edit my post for some reason. Theres a typo.

1) Wrong. Their killing power comes from a deadly VENOM. see link below.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/05/090518-komodo-dragon-venom.html

 

[Etunes]

Look into PA's permit process for an exotic cat. nuff said.

Cant base the whole system off of 1 permit or 1 states permits. Seems a little quick. Because im sorry, people shouldnt be able to go to there local pet store and buy a baby gator or worse something like a gaboon viper. You need some order of things.

 

[joe229]

Chinese Alligator: Reasonably small, [probably] doesn't have the nasty attitude of a dwarf caiman or crocodile, and the hatchlings apparently don't stress out very easily. Probably the best species of crocodilian to keep as a pet, but that's not saying much. Regardless; its a hell of a lot better than an American Alligator or a Spectacled Caiman.

^^i would get one^^