Hikari vs nls pellets

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Don't mention variety, he will burn you horribly, even tho most everyone with piranhas supplement flesh. But he knows better I guess.........


With the money aspect shaping his perspective I'm not at all shocked that he says 100% NLS is all u need...he is right, but why not treat your fish to something they'd eat in the wild in flesh format? mine deserve it 1x per week.


With cichlids/tropicals I can totally see his point


Piranhas...... Well no.......




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I believe Rd has said a variety is good but if you're going to feed pellets exclusively then use the best brand available and we all know his opinion on what brand that is

I'm too lazy to go find his quotes so sorry if I spoke any false info


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Don't mention variety, he will burn you horribly, even tho most everyone with piranhas supplement flesh. But he knows better I guess.........


With the money aspect shaping his perspective I'm not at all shocked that he says 100% NLS is all u need...he is right, but why not treat your fish to something they'd eat in the wild in flesh format? mine deserve it 1x per week.


With cichlids/tropicals I can totally see his point


Piranhas...... Well no.......
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WTF are you talking about?

You previously stated in another recent thread that one shouldn't just feed pellets, my response to you was;

There's nothing wrong with supplementing with fresh/frozen foods, but all of the "essentials" can certainly be found in commercial foods.

About the only thing tilapia &/or shrimp will add to a quality pellet, is some extra protein & fat.
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You then posted the following ...

Maybe piranhas are different, most everyone supplements fresh fish, and it cures their crave for meat and eachother.
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To which I responded ......

Piranha are opportunistic generalist feeders, like most species of fish.

http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/content.php?sid=83

While they will eat meat when prey is available, there's absolutely no nutritional reason why they would require tilapia, shrimp, or anything else in their diet if a quality pellet is fed. With most of the more carnivorous species of fish, often feeding them live, or even fresh/frozen meat can sometimes trigger more aggression when kept in a glass box, not less as you suggested.

Again, there's certainly nothing wrong with feeding additional foods/supplements to your fish, even live foods if that's what you prefer to do, but from a nutritional stand point for most species of fish being kept in captivity it's usually not necessary.
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There is no money aspect shaping anything that I post with regards to fish nutrition. My comments are based on science, and a LOT of years of practical experience keeping, breeding, & feeding scores of different species of fish in captivity. I've forgotten more about fish nutrition than most people on this site will ever know.

I would suggest that in the future you not only get your facts straight, but you keep the personal comments to yourself. You clearly don't know squat about me, or my perspective about anything regarding this hobby.
 
Sorry again for throwing up that comment earlier, I thought your affiliation with NLS was common knowledge. Didn't mean to overstep into personal boundaries.

I have nothing but respect for RD and his wealth of factual knowledge.

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Nothing like a good beatdown hahaha

Now, I'm no expert (like Neil) but this topic has been "debated" dozens of times on this forum (and others like it) and it always comes down to the same answer; a high quality, nutritionally complete, pellet based diet (particularly NLS) will always be a better choice than a large variety of inadequately nutritious live/frozen/dried foods.
Like Pablo Tepoot wrote,
"Hobbyists worldwide have been informed by many so-called experts that no single food can meet all nutritional requirements of ornamental fish, with a varied diet being promoted as the best way to ensure that all of your fish's nutritional needs are being met. The reality is that by substituting one nutritionally deficient product for another nutritionally deficient product, you will not be solving any dietary issues in your fish. It is better to stay with one product that contains all of the variety needed to fulfill all of your fish's nutritional needs."

And this ^^^ applies to all fish...

Now, somebody close this crap please and hopefully a dozen more threads won't continue to pop up just like this one did...
 
Sorry, I just wanted everyone opinion....Ballingoutofcontrol informed me of the original thread and I learned a lot from it. I learned that variety is always better than just NLS pellets. Ultimately, I decided to go with NLS and going to track a 1 year feeding progress to hopefully show the change in the fishes. Im praying it will!
 
No I said it helps with aggression then you had to argue and go off on ur little hissy fits. We all know ur full of NLS buddy, u never agreed to my point which was piranhas should have variety/flesh, u keep saying they don't but I'm saying it helps with aggression. Seeing as how u were master of the other thread I can see what ur going for again. I even just said above ^^^ that what ur saying is great advice for community and tropicals but I guess u only read what you want..... Makes sense I guess.



I wont be like everyone else and bow down to u cause u sell fish food...... Lmao


Everyone else said variety and now u run to this thread trying to make it look like u agree now? When before u couldn't and wouldn't even come close to saying white fish is a good idea for piranhas.....remember I said the pros like to supplement variety with pellets and u fly off the handle, "what pros?" "all u need is NLS!". So now you encourage variety?


This is such a non productive arguement so let's just leave it at: piranhas should have a good pellet staple with healthy variety, and pretend like we both agree. And yes NLS is a great choice!





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Page 10, I refer to anyone active in this hobby with healthy piranhas pros, and everyone around here does supplement flesh to their p's, that's when I get slammed. I was just pointing out that in the Piranha area and even the nutritional stickies that white fish and variety is important. So I guess the pro who wrote that sticky is wrong by ur terms.....

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?397026-Omega-One-vs-NLS

Go S. Vettel #1 rb8
 
F1 ....... What everyone feeds their fish is up to them, I'm certainly not holding a gun to anyones head. lol

But my point was, and still is, that there's absolutely no nutritional reason why they would require tilapia, shrimp, or anything else in their diet if a quality pellet is fed.

If you know of any nutritional reasons why a P would require something beyond the amino acids, faty acids, fibre, vitamins, minerals etc that are found in a high quality pellet, please let me know.

BTW - I happen to know people who feed their P's an exclusive diet of pellets, and have been for several years.
 
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