I'm not complaining about the fact that you guys need to defend your homes with guns, not complaining about anything actually.
just wondering, why do you guys tend to use shotguns rather than your automatic rifles? I'd personally like to shoot someone with a ballistic round .223 from my m4 then hundreds of tiny metal balls. The reason being, if you were trying to kill the intruder (you wouldn't be using bird shot if that were the reason) you'd want it to be safest for your family, right? A ballistic round has a nylon tip, on impact the nylon tip disintegrates instantly, causing a giant ball of lead and brass to hit you, but it's already penetrated from the nylon tip. let me tell you a story, one day dad was hunting, he spots a kangaroo some 700m away, decides rather than using his beloved soft point rounds, he'll use a ballistic round, loads one in the magazine, aims, shoots and kills the kangaroo. he walked over to the corpse, kicked it to make sure it was dead (YOU DO NOT WANT A KANGAROO GETTING UP ON YOU) as he kicked it, he said he heard "sloshing"... he shot in the chest, but saw something red in it's tail, he stepped on the red thing and it was hard, he cut that open and saw it was a fragment of the bullet. what happened was the bullet entered the chest (the roo was upright) shattered inside, all of the bullet went different directions and made the insides of the roo to jelly. For you that want to know, no the roo was not put to waste, he cut off it's legs and tail for his south african mate at work.. the excellent thing about this is, if you shoot a wall, you have a much lower chance of that bullet passing through the wall and injuring someone (neighbor or family member) then 16 balls of lead.
But if you have buck shot, those balls of lead means you don't need such a good aim under pressure (bullets spread out over distance ). With a AR you need to stop, aim, then fire and you've got a guy running into your house with a knife or some firearm. problem with this that your target may vary in distances away from you, if they're closer you will need to aim, but if they're say 20m away, just point in that general direction and shoot (half aim kinda) remember that you're under extreme pressure (this is all you probably will do, you've got a guy running into your house, pumped on adreneline ready to kill you, and is determined, you might not have time to aim). Remember that if you point and shoot at the target, you've got alot of bullets missing your target. Where will those bullets go? If you're lucky you have brick walls... (I highly doubt any of you have brick interior walls, it'd be more like drywall and gyprock)
my debate is, if you've got a crazy man running into your house trying to kill you, you shoot a ballistic bullet at him, misses and hits the wall you have less chance of the bullet killing someone or passing through the next wall instead of 8 little metal balls passing through the wall and hitting your daughter. I'd rather be hit with a big slug that has already hit a wall, then 8 tiny metal balls that have gone through a wall (8 locations for that bullet to hit you, one location for that slug to hit you) obvisously you'll die if either one of the bullets hit you in a vital spot but with a 8 balls hitting you, you have more chance of the bullet hitting a vital spot then one bullet. and think of what happened to the kangaroo when it was shot, no bullet passed out, insides turned to mush and died one shot.
it'd be a cool experiment if someone got a 6 cinderblocks, filled them with concrete (individualy) then shot three (one at a time from 20m away) with buck shot, see how many round it takes the buckshot to break the bricks and viceversa witht he ballistic rounds. I'd do it if I had 6 cinderblocks laying around, concrete and time to go shooting.
just been wondering about this for a while guys, tell me what you think?
just wondering, why do you guys tend to use shotguns rather than your automatic rifles? I'd personally like to shoot someone with a ballistic round .223 from my m4 then hundreds of tiny metal balls. The reason being, if you were trying to kill the intruder (you wouldn't be using bird shot if that were the reason) you'd want it to be safest for your family, right? A ballistic round has a nylon tip, on impact the nylon tip disintegrates instantly, causing a giant ball of lead and brass to hit you, but it's already penetrated from the nylon tip. let me tell you a story, one day dad was hunting, he spots a kangaroo some 700m away, decides rather than using his beloved soft point rounds, he'll use a ballistic round, loads one in the magazine, aims, shoots and kills the kangaroo. he walked over to the corpse, kicked it to make sure it was dead (YOU DO NOT WANT A KANGAROO GETTING UP ON YOU) as he kicked it, he said he heard "sloshing"... he shot in the chest, but saw something red in it's tail, he stepped on the red thing and it was hard, he cut that open and saw it was a fragment of the bullet. what happened was the bullet entered the chest (the roo was upright) shattered inside, all of the bullet went different directions and made the insides of the roo to jelly. For you that want to know, no the roo was not put to waste, he cut off it's legs and tail for his south african mate at work.. the excellent thing about this is, if you shoot a wall, you have a much lower chance of that bullet passing through the wall and injuring someone (neighbor or family member) then 16 balls of lead.
But if you have buck shot, those balls of lead means you don't need such a good aim under pressure (bullets spread out over distance ). With a AR you need to stop, aim, then fire and you've got a guy running into your house with a knife or some firearm. problem with this that your target may vary in distances away from you, if they're closer you will need to aim, but if they're say 20m away, just point in that general direction and shoot (half aim kinda) remember that you're under extreme pressure (this is all you probably will do, you've got a guy running into your house, pumped on adreneline ready to kill you, and is determined, you might not have time to aim). Remember that if you point and shoot at the target, you've got alot of bullets missing your target. Where will those bullets go? If you're lucky you have brick walls... (I highly doubt any of you have brick interior walls, it'd be more like drywall and gyprock)
my debate is, if you've got a crazy man running into your house trying to kill you, you shoot a ballistic bullet at him, misses and hits the wall you have less chance of the bullet killing someone or passing through the next wall instead of 8 little metal balls passing through the wall and hitting your daughter. I'd rather be hit with a big slug that has already hit a wall, then 8 tiny metal balls that have gone through a wall (8 locations for that bullet to hit you, one location for that slug to hit you) obvisously you'll die if either one of the bullets hit you in a vital spot but with a 8 balls hitting you, you have more chance of the bullet hitting a vital spot then one bullet. and think of what happened to the kangaroo when it was shot, no bullet passed out, insides turned to mush and died one shot.
it'd be a cool experiment if someone got a 6 cinderblocks, filled them with concrete (individualy) then shot three (one at a time from 20m away) with buck shot, see how many round it takes the buckshot to break the bricks and viceversa witht he ballistic rounds. I'd do it if I had 6 cinderblocks laying around, concrete and time to go shooting.
just been wondering about this for a while guys, tell me what you think?
I wish they were available in Cali, we only have access to Saiga rifles only. Oh yeah, I also wish I had more "shiny with spots".