how big is too big??????

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krisisdog;4063436; said:
Just because the fish can fit in the tank and you can maintain good water quality does not mean its a good habitat for the fish. 10" cat in a 30x18 tank is the same as if I stuck you in a room thats under 2 foot deep, and 6ft wide. Wow, that sounds awesome doesnt it, a plethora of room.

At least someone has some sense left... Thank you for agreeing.
 
I say a 4 line pim. A great active cat that maxes at about 12" but I've never seen one bigger than 9-10
 
krisisdog;4063436; said:
Just because the fish can fit in the tank and you can maintain good water quality does not mean its a good habitat for the fish. 10" cat in a 30x18 tank is the same as if I stuck you in a room thats under 2 foot deep, and 6ft wide. Wow, that sounds awesome doesnt it, a plethora of room.

Where did you get your numbers. The length is 3x the length of the fish and the width is 1.8 x the length. A 6' person would be in a room 18' long and ~10' wide. Id be ok in that!
 
bubbles21476;4063674; said:
Where did you get your numbers. The length is 3x the length of the fish and the width is 1.8 x the length. A 6' person would be in a room 18' long and ~10' wide. Id be ok in that!

No, I was going off your footprint.
10" long fish - the tank isnt quite twice as deep as he is long.
10" long fish - tank is 3x as long as he is.
An average persons footprint is what, less than 12"x12".
See where I'm going here? Length of fish does not equal height of person!

Length of fish equals footprint of a human.
 
Let's not forget about the wide array of sedentary ambush predators which would be okay in a 30gal. There's Chaca chaca for starters. Thalassophryne Amazonica isn't a catfish, but might be what the OP is looking for. Check out the Mini-Monsters thread.
 
krisisdog;4063733; said:
No, I was going off your footprint.
10" long fish - the tank isnt quite twice as deep as he is long.
10" long fish - tank is 3x as long as he is.
An average persons footprint is what, less than 12"x12".
See where I'm going here? Length of fish does not equal height of person!

Length of fish equals footprint of a human.

I was thinking about a person laying down to give the same configuration as a fish. long and narrow like us. which is why we have 8 foot ceilings. lol
 
bubbles21476;4063667; said:
I say a 4 line pim. A great active cat that maxes at about 12" but I've never seen one bigger than 9-10

Why?...
 
Doradid;4062911; said:
I dont know if anyone is right. With the right filtration and maintainence, you can do a 10" cat. I have a 72 bowfront so i alittle more than 2x a 30g. I have a 11" niger cat, 4" stripped raphael, 4" irwini, 2x 2" spotted raphael, 3" flagtail porthole, 12" severum, 6" severum, 3" frontosa, 2x 4" bichir, 4" royal pleco, 4" BN pleco, 2" gold nugget, 4" SAL and a 6" clown loach. all are fed M-W-F and with 50% weekly water changes, pH is 6.8, 0-amm, 0-nitrite and traces of nitrate. (i know some city water sucks but memphis water comes straight from the aquafer without nitrate so yes, my params are correct).

so if you cut my stock in half, it still excedes a 10" cat in a 30 g by far without any trouble. maintainence is key and frequent small feeding vs fewer larger feedings will help reduce changed of overloading beneficial bacteria and resulting in amm and nitrite spikes.


We are all happy you can do it. It takes a lot of work and some lack of heart to keep an animal in a tiny place. This doesn't mean its good advice to others.:screwy:



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Originally Posted by bubbles21476
I say a 4 line pim. A great active cat that maxes at about 12" but I've never seen one bigger than 9-10

Why?...



BECAUSE PEOPLE DO THE STUFF LISTED ABOVE..

Stuffing big fish in small tanks....
 
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