how big is too big??????
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TheCanuck;4064523; said:We are all happy you can do it. It takes a lot of work and some lack of heart to keep an animal in a tiny place. This doesn't mean its good advice to others.
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Originally Posted by bubbles21476
I say a 4 line pim. A great active cat that maxes at about 12" but I've never seen one bigger than 9-10
Why?...
BECAUSE PEOPLE DO THE STUFF LISTED ABOVE..
Stuffing big fish in small tanks....
Thank you for taking the intellectual side of things man. People just need to do some research and use some common sense, just because it will fit, doesn't mean it's right!
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-6165875-504083.html
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/12/13/national/main532926.shtml
I know its humans and not fish, but people with similar mind sets make me sicky
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/12/13/national/main532926.shtml
I know its humans and not fish, but people with similar mind sets make me sicky
couple of people on this thread with a tendency to over react.
in my reply i advised a maximum of 8-10in and suggested a search on planet catfish.
if the op followed my advise planet catfish would provide suggestions on tank size for the individual species so that unsuitable types could be avoided,and suggest whether they should be kept singly or in pairs ,groups etc.
many fish particularly cats require decor that pens them in so they feel safe (in nature hiding from preds is a way of life) and if given a large tank will not utilise the space but jam themselves into the smallest space possible-again guidance would be available in the search.
to illustrate what i am saying an 8in dorid would be fine in such a tank, as they are as active as a brick but something with similar habits to a pangasius(yes i know they are way too big but it was the most active cat i could think of) would not be suitable even as a tiny juvenile.
As long as the fish can turn easily then water quality is more important than sheer tank size which is why i suggested canister filtration(a sump for a tank this size is unlikely).
it seems that there are some on this site who choose to misinterpret any advise given in the worst possible way unless you go into endless qualification of everything you type.
In closing the "person in a room" maths was way off as has been pointed out by one of the more stable posters.
in my reply i advised a maximum of 8-10in and suggested a search on planet catfish.
if the op followed my advise planet catfish would provide suggestions on tank size for the individual species so that unsuitable types could be avoided,and suggest whether they should be kept singly or in pairs ,groups etc.
many fish particularly cats require decor that pens them in so they feel safe (in nature hiding from preds is a way of life) and if given a large tank will not utilise the space but jam themselves into the smallest space possible-again guidance would be available in the search.
to illustrate what i am saying an 8in dorid would be fine in such a tank, as they are as active as a brick but something with similar habits to a pangasius(yes i know they are way too big but it was the most active cat i could think of) would not be suitable even as a tiny juvenile.
As long as the fish can turn easily then water quality is more important than sheer tank size which is why i suggested canister filtration(a sump for a tank this size is unlikely).
it seems that there are some on this site who choose to misinterpret any advise given in the worst possible way unless you go into endless qualification of everything you type.
In closing the "person in a room" maths was way off as has been pointed out by one of the more stable posters.
jprp;4064735; said:couple of people on this thread with a tendency to over react.
in my reply i advised a maximum of 8-10in and suggested a search on planet catfish.
if the op followed my advise planet catfish would provide suggestions on tank size for the individual species so that unsuitable types could be avoided,and suggest whether they should be kept singly or in pairs ,groups etc.
many fish particularly cats require decor that pens them in so they feel safe (in nature hiding from preds is a way of life) and if given a large tank will not utilise the space but jam themselves into the smallest space possible-again guidance would be available in the search.
to illustrate what i am saying an 8in dorid would be fine in such a tank, as they are as active as a brick but something with similar habits to a pangasius(yes i know they are way too big but it was the most active cat i could think of) would not be suitable even as a tiny juvenile.
As long as the fish can turn easily then water quality is more important than sheer tank size which is why i suggested canister filtration(a sump for a tank this size is unlikely).
it seems that there are some on this site who choose to misinterpret any advise given in the worst possible way unless you go into endless qualification of everything you type.
In closing the "person in a room" maths was way off as has been pointed out by one of the more stable posters.
If you know that catfish usually "jam" themselves in small spaces then you will also know that they will get out at night and forage for food while all of the diurnal predators are asleep. Thus, utilizing their tank space. I had (and still do) have a spotted raphael who jammed himself in a large piece of driftwood, but every night he would be swimming around while dark, same as my large marbled catfish who although is not active at daytime, uses 100% of the tank at night. My spotted pictus catfish (lives with the raphael in the same tank) also is extremely active in both the day time, but MUCH more in the night, he does laps around the tank, always disturbing the substrate and making it hit against the glass.
Let's sum it up: just because you can't see it doesn't mean it does not exist! (IE: catfish being active.)
thats exactly the kind of answer i was talking about-you seem to assume i have never watched a tank at night -surprise like everone else on site i have and dorids are still amongst the most inactive cats in the dark -if yours is searching non stop it is probably underfed as they wont move any further than they have to even to find food.I<3fish;4064762; said:
all your comments in this thread (and others) have been negative and are not helping the op make a selection.
jprp;4064827; said:thats exactly the kind of answer i was talking about-you seem to assume i have never watched a tank at night -surprise like everone else on site i have and dorids are still amongst the most inactive cats in the dark -if yours is searching non stop it is probably underfed as they wont move any further than they have to even to find food.
all your comments in this thread (and others) have been negative and are not helping the op make a selection.
Sometimes, the truth hurts, and my posts are trying to get him to not listen to some of the bad advice given in this thread. My fish is in no way underfed as he gets a varied diet of small bits of shrimp, worms, fish fillets, pellets, and many other aquatic related foods. He just will swim during the night, not very fast, but slowly moving around, he is a pig and will still, even after full, look for foods lodged in the substrate and other decor.
