How can you tell who's winning a lip lock?

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ahud said:
I'll share an interesting lip locking story.

I have 2m3f Guianacara in a 125g tank. Originally, one male was a lot larger, but over time the smaller male has started to catch up. I never had any aggression in the group, beyond an occasional nip or when the pair was guarding offspring. One day I noticed the two males were flaring at each other, after a few minutes of flaring they lip locked! They literally went at it for at least 30-45 minutes! Finally, the sub male let go and backed up from the dominate male. After he let go, there was some chasing and the whole ordeal was over. There were marks right above the lips (is that anatomically correct?) on both fish, but no evidence of the scuffle anywhere else. I have not witnessed any aggression since then, and both males will swim in close proximity to each other.

So in a nutshell, that is my idea of lip locking.
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Wow. That is a really long lip lock. The longest I have witnessed from my fish were only a few minutes long. I would imagine there would be a little damage to the mouth area after such a long hold with both fish tugging back and forth. You've got some stubborn males there. LOL


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everyone can share their experience. Your's can be different than mine I wont be upset :)

this is fish talk. Im not here to check if you're missing a comma or your spelling is correct in your replies.

http://grammarist.com/usage/fish-fishes/

But who cares? this is a fish forum
 
the animal guy said:
everyone can share their experience. Your's can be different than mine I wont be upset :)

this is fish talk. Im not here to check if you're missing a comma or your spelling is correct in your replies.

http://grammarist.com/usage/fish-fishes/

But who cares? this is a fish forum
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I'm hurt that you edited your post to remove my name. Oh well. :)

It's true I am bit of a grammar Nazi. It's from all those years of dealing with the other grammar Nazis.

It is true that "fishes" is a word when used in a possessive sense. You got me there. The use of "fishes" to describe multiple species is an old school way of thinking. As a marine biologist, I can tell you that if you were to write "fishes" instead of something like "these species of fish" in a peer reviewed article, the fisheries biology community would butcher you alive and your point would be next to worthless, no matter how valid it is because of a grammatical error (we scientists tend to have ego issues). But I have to deal with that sort of thing, not you guys. However, the context you were using it in is still incorrect.

And yes, this is a fish forum where many experiences can be shared. Your experiences are of betting on fish fights and watching fish try to kill one another. The OP was asking about lip locking, which in a strict sense, is primarily a dominance or mating ritual type behavior. While your experiences are valid, the illegal and cruel nature of them probably should have been kept to yourself. That is my personal feeling on the matter. Everyone feel free to disagree with me if you are into that sort of thing, but this is a forum dedicated to the collection and care of fish and not the wager and cruelty of illegal fish fights.


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