How did we get the super red severum?

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I have a couple pairs of red sev pair but unable to produce any fertilized eggs. Anybody has any luck with them?
 
Red Sevs always remind me of Notatus but instead of Green with black spots being Orange with Pink Spots.

I find Golds very different like i said earlier, my old Gold Male was almost neon yellow with Red Spots around the face, but not on teh body, plus it was a different body shape to my current large Male Red Sev.
 
fishnut;3833684; said:
I have a couple pairs of red sev pair but unable to produce any fertilized eggs. Anybody has any luck with them?

There are several people breeding them and a few people on here that have had spawns. Search it and you will find some. They seem to have a low fertility rate and are not exactly good parents either. That what you get with all the line breeding though.
 
I have read that Most of our "severums" are hybrids. Heros efasciatus mixes because each Heros efasciatus differs depending on where they are found in south America. That's what I have read. But back when they first started bring these fish over they would have differant heros and well they would breed together. So many of out fish are not pure unless wild caught. That's just what I have put together with what I have read. Seems like Everyones "green severum" looks differant you know what I mean. Unless from the same spawn.

So I'm thinking it might be both. first was a hybrid then was selected breeding that made it what it is now.
 
Probably only a few person in the world know the real answer....and they are not telling anybody... I've heard accounts of both possibilities many times, but I don't know if anybody has been able to independently repeat the breeding process...

If anybody really wants to know, send me a few grand and I can find out :D we can even be co-corresponding authors...
 
I've heard they are line breed and i'm guessing similar to Electric blue jacks. I have 1 in a 90 gallon tank and I think he is awesome. Looks just like a gold severum but with red spots. I really like mine and it gets alot of compliments.
 
The low fertility makes me think they are line bred golds, which are known for fertility issues to begin with (compared to green sevs).
 
I'm leaning toward line-bred golds. The male greens (and golds) that I used to see in the hobby showed similar spotting as the super reds, meaning the horizontal rows of spots. The greens had the spots like the notatus we see now, and golds had the red spotting. In fact, there were people who'd tell you that said spots were more prominent in males; I heard that long before the "worm markings = male" that's usually said today. Yes there were plain gold/yellow sevs, but they showed no red on the body or face and tended to be females. I'm guessing somebody collected some excessively red ones and line bred them.

I do see them occasionally with different shaped faces, less blunt, more pointed. Those could be mixed with anything I suppose.
 
CTU2fan;3834419; said:
I'm leaning toward line-bred golds. The male greens (and golds) that I used to see in the hobby showed similar spotting as the super reds, meaning the horizontal rows of spots. The greens had the spots like the notatus we see now, and golds had the red spotting. In fact, there were people who'd tell you that said spots were more prominent in males; I heard that long before the "worm markings = male" that's usually said today. Yes there were plain gold/yellow sevs, but they showed no red on the body or face and tended to be females. I'm guessing somebody collected some excessively red ones and line bred them.

I do see them occasionally with different shaped faces, less blunt, more pointed. Those could be mixed with anything I suppose.

I think you are talking about H. severus, but the red spots on them are not even close to super reds. Also, H. severus are mouth brooders whereas super reds are substrate spawners....
 
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