How difficult are rays to keep?

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When I started having rays. I was dirt poor. I got a hystrix the size of my palm, and housed it initially in a 20 gallon tank (back then, Leo's were 300 $...and i couldn't afford that either! I cringe when I look back). It stayed there happily, and brought me luck...lots of luck.

There wasn't any MFK then nor an easy access to the internet, and I would probably say, that this was the only site that provided insights on rays...(which i am amazed is still in the top 5):

http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/5590/ray.html

My ray's initial diet was bloodworms, and guppies that i had to kill for him because he was too incompetent to catch them on his own.

After 6 months with the ray, and him bringing me luck, i was able to afford a 150 gallon tank, and I housed him there. He lived another month in that tank, but passed away because he did not survive the 5 day power failure :( (i had a battery operated oxygen but that wasn't enough)....

The ray waited for me to come home that day, went close to the glass as I tapped it, and a few seconds later, was motionless.

I'll never forget my first ray, and how intelligent they are. I could only say, that even as primitive and uninformed as I was before, and having such an insufficient tank size (to begin with), water changes are key, do it 1-2x a week, and always talk to your ray when your a beginner, i guess they're more forgiving that way. Also, when you spend alot of time with your ray, you can see a difference in their attitude or demeanor to spot whether u might need to fix something.

Food for them may "seem" expensive, but just don't drink that starbucks coffee each morning, and that pretty much covers their daily food costs...with a few to spare.

Hope this was helpful! I'm not as informed or detailed as these guys here, but this is my 2 cents, and if there was something I would equate with these big guys here, is that I love my rays as much as they do :D
 
Arghas;2265896; said:
The ray waited for me to come home that day, went close to the glass as I tapped it, and a few seconds later, was motionless.

That's so beautiful but sad at the same time :(
 
Arghas;2265896; said:
When I started having rays. I was dirt poor. I got a hystrix the size of my palm, and housed it initially in a 20 gallon tank...

The ray waited for me to come home that day, went close to the glass as I tapped it, and a few seconds later, was motionless.

I'll never forget my first ray, and how intelligent they are. ...
just don't drink that starbucks coffee each morning, and that pretty much covers their daily food costs...with a few to spare.
:D

That was horrible, funny, touching, incredibly insightful and appreciated; thank you.
 
I am wondering. I saw this one by snookin or whatever selling a freshwater stingray that is a atlantic stingray. Is that a freshwater stingray or a saltwater? It says fresh but I saw some people say it is salt? And is a 4 in stingray good in a 10 gallon tank for a year or a couple months? I know it'll grow big as I have a 200 upgrade tank for when it grows.
 
Goldfish are not good as feeders as they have too high thiamin content, a varied diet is important and massivore is expensive but worth the cost.

If you live in an area with regular power cuts or have more than 2-3 hour cuts then spend a little bit on a generator, they are not that much.

I bought a generator just in case, I have never used it but of there is a power outage I can run for days on a tiny amount of fuel.

Make sure you know what makes nitrate grow and ph crash and you have pretty much got what you need to know.
 
Bogwoodbruce;2136684; said:
To be honest they arent really alll that diffiult just as long as you over filter the tank and perform regular waterchanges.

Ive always found the food bill to be the most expensive thing about keeping rays.


2x on the first one. But i dont agree on the second, as for now :p I have 9 rays as we speak, they are from 6-7" - 10-12", so they have a long way to go, and will cost more in the future.. When i buy food for my fishes, i go in the freezer disc at the store, frozen shrimp, frozen fish, everything frozen is alot cheeper.. For myselfe i gues i use around 20-40$ a month, thats not very harsh..
 
jen, first off.... THANK YOU for researching before buying! we cannot tell you how many people impulse buy with no clue on what they just bought. this was your first great move!

you shouldn't really have any problems, as you are willing to do water changes if necessary. you shouldn't have to be doing more than 2 water changes a week, 3 if something goes wrong.

food can get expensive. i'd like to help out by saying, it's a good idea to start up a "worm farm". i have been keeping canadian earthworms in a compost type setup, feeding them varied vegetables. it has helped cut down my food costs substantially and is a great food choice with tons of nutritional value. if you purchase a large enough stock (keep in mind you will be losing worms to feedings) they will be reproducing enough that you should not be running out. they are fairly cheap to get. i get a couple hundred for 30$ at the local bait shop.

your choice of pond is great, just make sure your dog doesn't get into it. i have been debating between a pond or a custom glass aquarium to upgrade for mine, since i have a feeling my cat would somehow make it into the pond (no fear would only last so long for him).
 
Lolz suggest motoro but it is a little money. If u want to start out easy get a pretty big sized one like maybe 12 in or 6 depneds i guess. Feed it about twice a day with live food or prepared food and maybe but not all the times frozen. (they like worms and prepared fish a lot) and do about 2 week of water changes. Keep everything nutral as chemical wise and get sand in ur tank with heaters to 80 degrees at least with heater guard. Good luck :thumbsup
 
I'm not going to go into some l

KEEPING RAYS IS EASY IF YOU STICK WITH A FEW RULES FROM THE START

1. Make sure you have a big enough tank to hold the rays for at least 2 years this will give you plenty of time to get the massive tanks adult rays need
When someone says your tank is to small take note as you may need to get the new big tank finished sooner rather than later

2. Make sure you only buy healthy rays a skinny ray is not always a unhealthy ray as long as it's feed
Never buy a ray unless you see it feeding first even if you are buying online get the seller to take a short video to show you them feeding
To tell the truth I would never buy online and would travel up to 24 hours each way to pick up the right fish but I do understand that others have no choice so they have to buy online just be careful who you buy from

3. Buy captive bred rays over wild caught as they seam to do better and for a new ray keeper a captive bred ray is the best option

4. Feeding never under estimate the amount of food a ray will eat they are always on the hunt for food so it's getting the balance right with top much or top little that the new ray keeper needs to get right

5. Taking care of rays won't take up much time as long as you have time to do two 25-40% water changes per week you have time for rays

6 rays need lots of filtration all depending on tank size I would say you need a large sump or 2 large canister filters

7. Make sure if you have heaters in the tank they have heater guards on them as rays do get burnt easy

8. If you like a nice planted tank with lots of decor then rays are not for you
The plants will be ripped up as fast as you can plant them and piles of rocks will be knocked over hurting the ray or even cracking the tank

9. I no some people like top be lazy and use a bare bottom tank for me it's just not right so use a very fine smooth gravel or sand just make sure it not sharp

10. This is the best rule READ ALL THE STICKYs as you will find a lot of info in them then do more research

Probably loads I have missed

Just give them plenty of tank space
Good water
Good food
Buy the right ray and don't just snap up the 1st one that comes along
 
I would propose using 25% of the pond as a slum filter. Make sure the piping is done right, so you can drain the slum easily every few months to make a water change easy.

With such a large volume. You won't need to worry much except for extra aeration to keep the rays happy. landscaping a waterfall to provide extra aeration and filtration would be great.

Just note that newly constructed ponds with cement surface tend to have high PH, I would suggest a natural looking slate or tile as a surface for the inside of the pond.

If you can build part of it above ground and have a glass front, it would be fantastic for enjoyment.

Don't rush into it. Use cheap fish to test out the pond before considering rays. A 5 x 6 can house 3-5 rays. I would not over stock esp since pups may be the result.

Plan it all out and post the blue prints here for comments.
 
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