I've always wondered if the plastic/material in a hose was safe. Do you know the name of the coating?
How do you guys do water changes?
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I've always wondered if the plastic/material in a hose was safe. Do you know the name of the coating?
I'm not assuming anything. Pythons are wasteful. Having to run the water from my faucet in order to create the vacuum pressure to drain the tank is incredibly wasteful. If you're going to run ANOTHER hose from your Python outlet on your faucet to run the faucet water and the waste water from the tank out to your garden anyway, why not use my design and avoid the wasteful step of running the faucet?
Agreed.
30 minutes is crazy slow. Especially if you have to leave your faucet running the entire time in order to get it done. With my design, I can drain 75-100 gallons in less than ten minutes.
I use a garden hose with a 3/4" diameter to drain all my tanks and then refill with the python
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I do this for all but my tallest tank which at 5'4" is too high for me, but luckily its near the balcony so can drain it down the floor drain and fill it with the hose.
I just start adding water till it overflows all over the carpet, I keep on doing this until I feel I have displaced enough water and I'm done!
Pytho system but insyead of leaving the water on te whole time... Start the suction and then unclscrew it from the faucet and ley it in the shower... Let gravity do whqt ot does. Then fill it back up with the faucet. Waste problem solved but its not trickling.... Everyones happy
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I just start adding water till it overflows all over the carpet, I keep on doing this until I feel I have displaced enough water and I'm done!
I use a garden hose to refil my tank. To empty it, I have a manifold from my return pump in my sump that I run a hose to the garden with and let the pump drain my tank. It only works because I have the herby style over flow, which will siphon a lot of water out of my tank, well below my bulkhead with my siphon line being a foot below the water level
Python speed is dependent on what you hook it to and it's flowrate. Be that a faucet, a hose, w/e. Mine doesn't take anywhere near 30 minutes.
As I said in my previous post that I drain mine out to my garden. Tank water then becomes irrigation water and saves the water I would be using to water my plants otherwise. The python default attachment unscrews, you screw on another hose to run it wherever you like, to storage, to your garden, etc. The product isn't wasteful when used properly and setting up the adjustment is far easier than any of your suggestions. Your solution requires permanent plumbing, something that by default leaves renters in the cold. Mine requires no plumbing adjustments and allows the tank to be placed anywhere in the house, not just adjacent a water tap. (if you remember the OP has the tank pretty far from the closest water source)
are you selling your design? can I pick it up in a local store and start using it immediately? The OP states
your solution is not universal and it is not simple. A python is simple and none of the water goes to waste when used properly. The extra water used to create the siphon is still less than the amount I'd be using of straight tap water on my garden (unless of course you're accusing me of overwatering my plants)
I measured the rate of water being drained with the python once. It took 2.5 mins to fill up a 5 gallon bucket when you drain with the water off. I compared that to draining with a sump pump and garden hose. With the pump and hose it takes a little over 1 minute to drain a 5 gallons of tank water.
If you drain using a python with the water turned on it took me about 30 mins to drain my tank. That's 30 mins of water being turned on near full blast -- all of it wasted water. You figure it takes about 1 minute to fill up a 5 gallon bucket if you turn your garden hose on full power. So 5gallons a minute x 30 mins = 150 gallons wasted. You could turn down the water pressure but it also turns down the suction force by a lot.
I use a Rio 26hf pump and there's about 4ft of head that the pump has to overcome. If you have a small tank or don't mind waiting then the Python is still a good option but if you have a few tanks or a huge tank then using a python isnt worth it at all. If you've got a big tank you either waste water or waste time using a python. You could be draining water much much faster with a pump and hose.
