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In our house we have lots of fish and three dogs. 2 labs and our Midas. lol By far the most personable and interactive fish I've ever owned.

And by no means am I trying to equate most fishes reactions on the same level that we feel emotions, but it is interesting how certain species of fish seem to be more intelligent than others....like certain mammals. Dolphins come to mind, but so do elephants......

one, by human standards is supposed to be far more intelligent than the other, but elephants seem to show emotions too.....
 
I think every creature has a measure of emotions, a ant runs when you bang, a elephant moves its trunk about in its own reflection. Its just how a animal comprehends the emotion that shows intelligence. A dog although excited will control its excitement if you tell them to stop. A fish will keep going back and forth, as it doesnt understand what its doing.

Strange things are manifested sometimes
 
Jc1119 said:
In our house we have lots of fish and three dogs. 2 labs and our Midas. lol By far the most personable and interactive fish I've ever owned.

And by no means am I trying to equate most fishes reactions on the same level that we feel emotions, but it is interesting how certain species of fish seem to be more intelligent than others....like certain mammals. Dolphins come to mind, but so do elephants......

one, by human standards is supposed to be far more intelligent than the other, but elephants seem to show emotions too.....
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My Oscar is by far the most personable and interactive fish I own. If it sees me, it begs for food. I'm sure when my Amarillo gets bigger it'll be personable and interactive, just in a different way. I to believe all creatures have different emotions. Anything with some kind of brain will. As far as fish though, there are people that have Cichlids that will interact with different members of the family in different ways. Which means they know who feeds and whatnot. I do believe some are smarter than others as well, I've witnessed it. To know the difference in the food containers? That's quite intelligent for a fish if you ask me.
 
i tap the glass just before feeding mine, all my tiger barbs and rainbows come rushing and yet my convict waits until i open the hood slots. and thats daily, the convict knows when the foods about the come, the tigers just associate with feeding time.

My oscar was also amazingly intelligent, it knew when i was going to the draw with the food, used to back off if i wasnt the one at the tank. and my old flowerhorn for that matter recognized me and not others and reacted accordingly
 
Fish react to stimuli, both positive & negative, but that doesn't always equate to human emotions, such as being "happy", or "sad".

Having said that, here's a couple of interesting reads on this subject.

Study finds animals have personality

Fish have personalities. Ordinary Canadian brook trout exhibit different traits: some social, others not. Some risk-takers, others scaredy-fish. And so on.

http://www.canada.com/topics/technology/story.html?id=a7d908ee-8379-4de5-8be4-bb64ef0f741e&k=24915


Fish may actually feel pain and react to it much like humans


http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/04/090430161242.htm


http://www.link.vet.ed.ac.uk/animalwelfare/fish pain/behaviour.htm
 
Gatorxxx420 said:
My Oscar is by far the most personable and interactive fish I own. If it sees me, it begs for food. I'm sure when my Amarillo gets bigger it'll be personable and interactive, just in a different way. I to believe all creatures have different emotions. Anything with some kind of brain will. As far as fish though, there are people that have Cichlids that will interact with different members of the family in different ways. Which means they know who feeds and whatnot. I do believe some are smarter than others as well, I've witnessed it. To know the difference in the food containers? That's quite intelligent for a fish if you ask me.
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I used to feed brand a and all my fish ate it. Then I switched to brand x and they liked it better. Ran out of brand x and had to fill in with brand a and they ate it, but not as enthusiastically, so as a test I placed both containers on the top of the tank one day just to see if they could tell the difference in color or pattern on the labeling. They all gravitated towards the brand x container, even though I placed it in a spot that was not the usual feeding area. I think some fish are alot more intelligent than we give them credit for.......
 
totally agree, i think some have the intelligence of bird, i dont believe oscars especially re-arrange a tank out of instinct, its more bordem, and with some veija's, when i was a newbie i kept a biffa in a 50 gallon (awful i know) and it used to rip the pipes out and all sorts, i believe now it was frustrated with lack of space. it was about 14" btw
 
I currently house a solo jag in a 90 gallon with all sorts of pots, rocks, wood, plastic plants. No matter where I place everything, she arranges the tank exactly the same way every time, down to the hills in the sand. It's quite funny actually.....I've tried to force my will and way on this fish, but everyday we go to her tank and she has it all arranged, exactly the same way....

She's only been in this tank for a bit less than a week too.....but she obviously knows how she likes it
 
RD. said:
Fish react to stimuli, both positive & negative, but that doesn't always equate to human emotions, such as being "happy", or "sad".

Having said that, here's a couple of interesting reads on this subject.

Study finds animals have personality

Fish have personalities. Ordinary Canadian brook trout exhibit different traits: some social, others not. Some risk-takers, others scaredy-fish. And so on.

http://www.canada.com/topics/technology/story.html?id=a7d908ee-8379-4de5-8be4-bb64ef0f741e&k=24915


Fish may actually feel pain and react to it much like humans


http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/04/090430161242.htm


http://www.link.vet.ed.ac.uk/animalwelfare/fish pain/behaviour.htm
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Great reads RD.

Could explain why some fish are skittish after a fight. It's more of a relation to pain from the other fish. I truly believe most cichlids are highly intelligent as are other species. But they exhibit some interesting behavior. For instance, they're known to train their keepers on feeding lol


Jc1119 said:
I used to feed brand a and all my fish ate it. Then I switched to brand x and they liked it better. Ran out of brand x and had to fill in with brand a and they ate it, but not as enthusiastically, so as a test I placed both containers on the top of the tank one day just to see if they could tell the difference in color or pattern on the labeling. They all gravitated towards the brand x container, even though I placed it in a spot that was not the usual feeding area. I think some fish are alot more intelligent than we give them credit for.......
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While some are dumb, some are highly intelligent. Look at the way they raise their fry in breeding pairs. Shooting food from their gills for their babies to eat, defending them and such. There is no way a dumb creature could do these things.


baxtor_lex said:
totally agree, i think some have the intelligence of bird, i dont believe oscars especially re-arrange a tank out of instinct, its more bordem, and with some veija's, when i was a newbie i kept a biffa in a 50 gallon (awful i know) and it used to rip the pipes out and all sorts, i believe now it was frustrated with lack of space. it was about 14" btw
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It could be boredom and it could be that they want things a certain way so they may arrange the tank to their liking. All of my Cichlids at some point or another re do my tanks after water changes. As for the Biffa, I'm sure it was frustration with lack of space. But we live and learn.
 
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