How has the coronavirus affected your personal life?

[RD.]

One can stick their head in the sand all they want, but this is what is heading your way.

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FYI ..... The only people that work in health care that typically wear N95 masks, are those that work directly with covid patients. Even many of those wear simple disposable medical masks, that are pretty much available everywhere in the free world. And they are relatively inexpensive. They can also be easily purchased online, so if one can find their way here, they can probably find a "good" mask. Those same good masks that I discussed previously, that helped stop influenza outbreaks this year, the first time in a decade, in all of the health care buildings that I work in.

But I'm not attempting to tell anyone what they should, or should not do. I'm simply pointing out the flaw in the logic being presented. Not everyone can get vaccinated, it's more than simply a choice for some folks. But if everyone simply wore a mask in crowded indoor spaces, it could potentially help prevent further critical overloads at hospitals, and help prevent further lockdowns. Seems selfish not to.

 

[pacu mom]

When it comes to masks, the pendulum has reversed direction again now that KN95 and N95 masks are readily available to the public. Cloth and surgical masks are out.

Why you may need to upgrade your face mask

As the Delta variant spreads, some experts are recommending getting a better mask.

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Early on, they said that KN95s were the Chinese equivalent to N95s. Now, there are Chinese N95s with NIOSH approved number available.

The very best protection is a surgical N95 mask which is different from N95 dust masks.


Surgical masks rated with an ASTM number with level 3 offer the most filtration of particles. But because surgical masks don't seal around the face as well as N95 masks, they are lower on the scale for protection.

An N95 respirator mask will filter 95% of particulates 0.3 microns in size
An ASTM level 3 mask filters 98% of particulates 0.1 micron in size


A surgical N95 respirator mask will seal around the face and will filter 98% of particles down to 0.1 micron if it is rated ASTM level 3. These masks are now available to the general public. Amazon has many N95 masks and a few surgical N95 ASTM Level 3 masks available plus others that are not ASTM rated. These masks will protect you and others.

 

[skjl47]

So far the new proposed mask mandates do not make sense for the vaccinated. Tell us the vaccines do not work well and we vaccinated will get infected and die, then we can have a turning point in the conversation.

So far we are being told the vaccines are effective for the delta variant. So far we are being told a pass thru infection is mild for the vaccinated

Disclose.tv ? on Twitter: "NEW - Dr. Fauci says it's about what's going on in the nose why vaccinated Americans have to mask up indoors again. https://t.co/kpaao7x4bt" / Twitter


Hello; It seems the story is coming out. The link above is short with limited information. The statement is a vaccinated person who gets an infection of the delta variant can have as much virus in the nasal passages as an unvaccinated person infected with the delta variant. That is about it as far as information goes. Too short of a clip.

There some implications here that need to be addressed. First is has the virus drifted to the point that the existing vaccines are not working at some different level? The media message in the most recent days has been to get the vaccines as they still are effective.
I have also seen reports the vaccines may allow a delta infection but the illness is mild for the vaccinated. If this holds true it will be better news than that the current vaccines are no longer working for the mutated virus. The severity of the illness from a variant will make a lot of difference.

Need more information.

 

[Ulu]

I’m probably going to get us busted here but the socio-political situation in the United States is too polarized, And that is what’s killing people.

When our last president was promoting vaccine development, the opposition was saying they weren’t willing to take those vaccines.

Now the same people are telling us that it’s required to take those very same vaccines.


Guess what happened?

Reading CDC.gov, I see one should not take the vaccines if you have had bad allergic reactions to the ingredients. “Bad” meaning you nearly choked and died, but survived with assistance/drugs. There’s no advice on how you go about getting tested for those allergies however.

It may be one of those things where the test is as bad as the disease. No clue. I noticed that one of the ingredients in the Moderna formula is a compound of polyethylene plastic.

Yum

 

[skjl47]

I’m probably going to get us busted here but the socio-political situation in the United States is too polarized, And that is what’s killing people.

When our last president was promoting vaccine development, the opposition was saying they weren’t willing to take those vaccines.

Now the same people are telling us that it’s required to take those very same vaccines.


Guess what happened?

Reading CDC.gov, I see one should not take the vaccines if you have had bad allergic reactions to the ingredients. “Bad” meaning you nearly choked and died, but survived with assistance/drugs. There’s no advice on how you go about getting tested for those allergies however.

It may be one of those things where the test is as bad as the disease. No clue. I noticed that one of the ingredients in the Moderna formula is a compound of polyethylene plastic.

Yum

Hello; When I got the first moderna shot they let me leave right away. A month later when I got the second shot they had me park and wait for a while, maybe 10-15 minutes. I went to a drive thru injection site.

The story with the old style vaccines was how they had to be made. A virus had to be grown in a live host. Chicken eggs were one way. So the egg proteins wound up in the vaccines. Then they tried to "kill" the virus so it would not cause an infection. The word kill in quotes as it is not clear that a virus is exactly alive. I think the new mRNA type vaccines do not have that live virus requirement so may be less of an allergy risk in some ways.

But as you say the messages have changed back and forth too often. I tend to wait and see for a while anymore. I may change my tune on wearing a mask again if the information fits. I do not automatically accept the decrees without question.

 

[RD.]

When it comes to masks, the pendulum has reversed direction again now that KN95 and N95 masks are readily available to the public. Cloth and surgical masks are out.

Of course some masks are better than others, but that doesn't equate to surgical masks not being a "good" mask - of course they are good masks, and they are a GREAT mask, compared to nothing.

 

[pacu mom]

Of course some masks are better than others, but that doesn't equate to surgical masks not being a "good" mask - of course they are good masks, and they are a GREAT mask, compared to nothing.

I just had an "aha" moment. I went into a medical facility and was handed a surgical mask to put on. I put it over the N95 mask I was wearing. I realized just now that they handed out masks to everyone to wear because medical staff were not doubly protected when patients had on cloth masks or neck gaiters, so they made everyone wear the mask they provided.

KUDOs to health care workers who are fighting this scourge and who daily put themselves at risk to help others.

 

[krichardson]

I’m probably going to get us busted here but the socio-political situation in the United States is too polarized, And that is what’s killing people.

When our last president was promoting vaccine development, the opposition was saying they weren’t willing to take those vaccines.

Now the same people are telling us that it’s required to take those very same vaccines.


Guess what happened?

Reading CDC.gov, I see one should not take the vaccines if you have had bad allergic reactions to the ingredients. “Bad” meaning you nearly choked and died, but survived with assistance/drugs. There’s no advice on how you go about getting tested for those allergies however.

It may be one of those things where the test is as bad as the disease. No clue. I noticed that one of the ingredients in the Moderna formula is a compound of polyethylene plastic.

Yum

So what's the CDC saying about the thousands of undocumented,unvaccinated,unmasked and untested potential covid carriers pouring across the southwestern borders every day?

 

[pacu mom]

Wow Pfizer keeps pushing for a third shot, even though the feds say it isn't necessary at this time. Their "new" data was on 23 people. . . hardly a statistically significant sample size....but it would mean money for them with a third shot. But they have noted waning immunity from their vaccine....and they are going to seek emergency use authorization from the FDA next month for a third shot

Pfizer data suggest third dose of Covid-19 vaccine 'strongly' boosts protection against Delta variant | CNN

A third dose of the Pfizer/BioNTech Covid-19 vaccine can "strongly" boost protection against the Delta variant -- beyond the protection afforded by the standard two doses, new data released by Pfizer on Wednesday suggests.

www.cnn.com

 

[RD.]

Lots of folks going to get rich during this pandemic, while others will lose everything.