How has the coronavirus affected your personal life?

[pacu mom]

Looks like we're up to 82 new cases, 429 active cases. But all new cases are in Auckland, so the rest of the country is looking to drop to alert level 3 on Tuesday.

I like how your government works. The news reported the whole country locked down over one case. I'm sure that was to show how radical it was to do so. The Times called New Zealand a "mysterious socialist hermit nation"

26 deaths in a country of over 5,000,000 people. We have 22 deaths in a community of less than 28,000 people. (14 deaths in August alone)

BTW, New Zealand is #185 on the list of countries with COVID-19 with 3,380 total cases. My little community has 1,137 new cases in August alone. I wish we were in total lock down.

 

[pacu mom]

12 hours after injection & I am unfortunately awake at 3:30 am with slight nausea (chocolate ice cream?) and a stiff neck (a/c too cold?) and a bit of pain in the shoulder (definitely the injection site.)

The stiff neck is turning into a headache so I’m gonna go take an aspirin, sit in the hot shower, and see if it loosens up. I’ve got a lot of heavy work to do right now, so I’m going to be really ticked off at myself if I get sick over this.

What to Expect after Getting a COVID-19 Vaccine

Learn about the potential side effects of the COVID-19 vaccine.

www.cdc.gov

You have a better immune response that I had. My arm was sore after the first injection and even less sore after the second one. I hope I have some protection. As a child I never got an immune response to small pox vaccinations. I don't have any tell tale scars on my arms even after multiple vaccinations.

 

[TwoHedWlf]

I like how your government works. The news reported the whole country locked down over one case.

Well, it was one case originally that started the whole mess. But they knew it was Delta, the known case wasn't the origin so they knew there were more.

Now that it's been tracked down to how it got in, we know it had been spreading for about 10 days at that point. A week and a half uncontrolled and we're looking at maybe up to 700+ cases before this is over. Imagine how much worse it would be looking if we hadn't gone into lockdown for another week given how the spread is usually exponential.

 

[Ulu]

What to Expect after Getting a COVID-19 Vaccine

Learn about the potential side effects of the COVID-19 vaccine.

www.cdc.gov

You have a better immune response that I had. My arm was sore after the first injection and even less sore after the second one. I hope I have some protection. As a child I never got an immune response to small pox vaccinations. I don't have any tell tale scars on my arms even after multiple vaccinations.

It appears that the reaction lasted about six or 7 hours, and after a shower, breakfast, and a nap I am recovered.

 

[skjl47]

Comparing SARS-CoV-2 natural immunity to vaccine-induced immunity: reinfections versus breakthrough infections | medRxiv

“Conclusions This study demonstrated that natural immunity confers longer lasting and stronger protection against infection, symptomatic disease and hospitalization caused by the Delta variant of SARS-CoV-2, compared to the BNT162b2 two-dose vaccine-induced immunity. Individuals who were both previously infected with SARS-CoV-2 and given a single dose of the vaccine gained additional protection against the Delta variant.”

Having SARS-CoV-2 once confers much greater immunity than a vaccine—but no infection parties, please | Science | AAAS (sciencemag.org)



finalfinalcombinedve20210816.pdf (ox.ac.uk)

“Abstract The effectiveness of BNT162b2, ChAdOx1, and mRNA-1273 vaccines against new SARS-CoV-2 infections requires continuous re-evaluation, given the increasingly dominant Delta variant. We investigated the effectiveness of the vaccines in a large community-based survey of randomly selected households across the UK. We found that the effectiveness of BNT162b2 and ChAd0x1 against any infections (new PCR positives) and infections with symptoms or high viral burden is reduced with the Delta variant. A single dose of the mRNA-1273 vaccine had similar or greater effectiveness compared to a single dose of BNT162b2 or ChAdOx1. Effectiveness of two doses remains at least as great as protection afforded by prior natural infection. The dynamics of immunity following second doses differed significantly between BNT162b2 and ChAdOx1, with greater initial effectiveness against new PCR-positives but faster declines in protection against high viral burden and symptomatic infection with BNT162b2. There was no evidence that effectiveness varied by dosing interval, but protection was higher among those vaccinated following a prior infection and younger adults. With Delta, infections occurring following two vaccinations had similar peak viral burden to those in unvaccinated individuals. SARS-CoV-2 vaccination still reduces new infections, but effectiveness and attenuation of peak viral burden are reduced with Delta.”


Hello; I have been criticized and put down on a different thread for taking the stance that the naturally immune from having survived the covid virus do not need the vaccine shots. My stance is the naturally immune do not need to risk the vaccines and the dose of the vaccine could be used for those in greater risk. I do not recall without going back if the same sort of critique happened on this site. I figured I was correct based on what I understood, but could not point to current data. Now there is data.

My hope is the naturally immune who were convinced to take the jabs do not have any long term issues. I accepted the risk of the shots because I had a negative antibody test just before taking the first shot. I am old and the risk of the shot seemed a good bet compared to the risk of the virus. I accept any possible effects of the shots as I did not have a better alternative. The naturally immune had a good choice, which was to skip the shots.
There is more to say but I will leave it here.

 

[RD.]

This article is a preprint and has not been certified by peer review [what does this mean?]. It reports new medical research that has yet to be evaluated and so should not be used to guide clinical practice.

 

[RD.]

What is an unrefereed preprint? | medRxiv

What is an unrefereed preprint?
Before formal publication in a scholarly journal, scientific and medical articles are traditionally certified by “peer review.” In this process, the journal’s editors take advice from various experts—called “referees”—who have assessed the paper and may identify weaknesses in its assumptions, methods, and conclusions. Typically a journal will only publish an article once the editors are satisfied that the authors have addressed referees’ concerns and that the data presented support the conclusions drawn in the paper.
Because this process can be lengthy, authors use the medRxiv service to make their manuscripts available as “preprints” before certification by peer review, allowing other scientists to see, discuss, and comment on the findings immediately. Readers should therefore be aware that articles on medRxiv have not been finalized by authors, might contain errors, and report information that has not yet been accepted or endorsed in any way by the scientific or medical community.
We also urge journalists and other individuals who report on medical research to the general public to consider this when discussing work that appears on medRxiv preprints and emphasize it has yet to be evaluated by the medical community and the information presented may be erroneous.

 

[RD.]

Lots or real world data that has yet to be gathered in any real meaningful numbers, thus far. Such as, what is the outcome when the average person that is exposed to Alpha variant, is later (weeks/months/years) exposed to the Delta variant? No need for vaccines? Maybe? Or maybe, one dies thinking that they were smarter than the millions of people that have spent their entire lives and careers working in this field of medicine.

 

[jjohnwm]

In my locale (both at home and at the northern jobsite at which I work), availability of vaccinations is a non-issue. The shots are now available continuously, either by appointment or on a walk-in basis for those who might feel that appointments are a sign of some sort of conspiracy. "Saving the doses for those at risk" is no longer a valid rationalization for dodging a vaccination, if it ever was.

Pretty much everything else in those two quotes posted above seems to state that getting vaccinated is the intelligent choice for everyone who is eligible...even for those who have developed a natural immunity after being infected and recovering.

But, by all means, keep warning about the "risks" being taken by those who choose to be vaccinated. Can't be too careful.

 

[RD.]

It seems like only yesterday when certain folks here were talking about IF a second wave occurred, and how herd immunity would save us all. lol