How has the coronavirus affected your personal life?

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The nature of the thread is to discuss how covid has impacted your lives, let's please keep it that way. Thanks
I found it interesting how the thread has taken on a life of its own and has got completely away from where I started it.
In the interest of fairness, I'm going to close this thread for 1 hour to make sure everybody participating in this discussion gets a chance to read my decision on this subject.
Hmm, my thread got locked and I didn’t even notice it.
Had there not been a report, I'd have been content to ignore this thread, but here we are.
Given the innocent title of the thread I would imagine you were surprised how it turned out.
That is the problem right there. A lot of people think it is no worse than a cold
I just started a new job in a welding place and I’m literally the only one wearing a mask. It absolutely sucks as when I’m working I’ll be breathing hard so I’m inhaling the mask basically but I’ll be damned if I’m not gonna wear it.
 
I'm thinking i might have had it not long ago. Was pretty miserable for a while, not 100% sure it was corona though. One thing i am sure of is that i am not taking that vaccine under any circumstances.
 
. . . I just started a new job in a welding place and I’m literally the only one wearing a mask. It absolutely sucks as when I’m working I’ll be breathing hard so I’m inhaling the mask basically but I’ll be damned if I’m not gonna wear it.

It's a problem, since you can't weld in the wind. You are always in still air, if possible. Now if you're the fitter, prepper, setup man etc you'll be running around a lot, grinding off rust etc for the welders, so a totally different situation.

I never welded in a pro shop, but I engineered/supervised at a few. If you're doing anything like plated sheetmetal you'll want a respirator to avoid the fumes. Galvanized fumes will kill you 1000x faster than any virus.
 
Hello; A question comes to mind now that at least one vaccine is being given out sort of to the general public. I understand that for a while there will not be enough to give a shot to all that may want one. I understand the criteria for the large part. If I have it right there will be medical staff and first responders regardless of age first in line. I cannot find fault with that. Next if I have it right the very old in nursing homes and maybe some folks with serious medical problems. Then maybe just ordinary old folks like me.
Here is the question. After a few weeks a lot of people will be vaccinated and with time even more vaccines and people vaccinated. Will there still be the mask mandates, and if so why?
The claim so far is some of the vaccines are around 90%+ effective which is much better than most masks we regular people can find. So to me if I can get a shot or two then after a few days I will likely be much safer than wearing the low effective masks I can get. But what the talking heads seem to be saying is we all will be asked (required if some have their way) to still wear a mask. Afraid that last bit does not make much sense to me.
 
Until an overwhelming amount (80%+ probably) has the vaccine, it'll be important to still wear masks. Herd immunity only works when most of the population is vaccinated and immune to the disease. Given that the vaccine will take a while to roll out it's reasonable to keep it on until we know everyone is safe.
 
Until an overwhelming amount (80%+ probably) has the vaccine, it'll be important to still wear masks. Herd immunity only works when most of the population is vaccinated and immune to the disease. Given that the vaccine will take a while to roll out it's reasonable to keep it on until we know everyone is safe.
Hello; That is a proper answer but not for the specific question I am asking. It is and has been for a long time my understanding once you have had the virus or in a few days if you have had a successful vaccination, then you can no longer catch the same virus nor can you pass it on to some one else.

So far before a vaccine there have been millions infected with the virus who have recovered if they had symptoms or had the virus and did not have symptoms. Unless I am missing some aspect of the "science" it stands to reason those millions have no need to wear a mask anymore. Soon those getting a vaccine will also not need a mask anymore.
The way I understand the immune system to work is that once you have an infection of a particular virus, then for some amount of time you are immune to that particular virus. Often the immunity last for years. However this new virus has not been around for years so the long term immunity is not known for sure yet, but last I saw the reports were it was lasting.

So I will restate the question. If I either have survived the infection or do get a proper reaction to a vaccine, then why would I need to wear a mask? I saw a news bit just recently being critical of a famous person for not wearing a mask who is known to have had the virus and survived. Such a person is not a threat to others nor is at risk to themselves.

I get that if this covid19 virus mutates to have a different identity then, like the flu, it will be possible to get infected with a new strain. However that is not yet a known problem. I have seen some reports of minor shifting of the covid19 virus but nothing major that I know of so far. To put it another way, what is to be the point of a cure (a vaccine) if those who are cured have to continue on and on like before.

A poor analogy. Say twenty people fell and had various degrees of fractures. At first all will be wearing a cast. Are we at the point where all would have to continue to wear a cast even after their bones are healed because some others are not yet healed? Or would the healed have to continue to wear a cast because some other might break a leg somewhere?
 
People can catch covid twice, or more, so even after you have had it I would still wear a mask. Usually we have a developed immunity after a virus, such as chicken pox, but that isn't the case here. The vaccines are not 100% effective, but with widespread vaccination and continued mask use it's possible to cut down the transmission rate, and when the majority of people have been vaccinated the use of masks may become less important.

 
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People can catch covid twice, or more, so even after you have had it I would still wear a mask. Usually we have a developed immunity after a virus, such as chicken pox, but that isn't the case here. The vaccines are not 100% effective, but with widespread vaccination and continued mask use it's possible to cut down the transmission rate, and when the majority of people have been vaccinated the use of masks may become less important.

Hello; I read the article. There are some important things to consider. First may be how the immune system works. After getting sick from an infection from a virus your body eventually is loaded with antibodies tailored to seek out the spikes of that virus and attach to the virus and make it unable to do it's thing. ( there are some other things going on also, but this is more closely related to the vaccines)
For some time after the virus is controlled by the antibodies there will be a lot of them but over time the antibodies numbers drop off. The trick is that the immune system keep a record of that particular virus and can ramp up protection with new antibodies for that virus quickly. So yes you can be exposed to that same virus by being around someone shedding the virus and if tested it will show up as a positive test. However you do not become ill from the next exposure just as the man in the article did not have symptoms.
The way I understand it, when you pick up a virus a second , third or more times the body recognizes it right away and re starts making antibodies for it. Long before you get ill from the later exposures, the antibodies stop it. Also for a time after the initial (first) infection there is a level of antibodies that stays present for some time.

The best argument is about the vaccine not being 100% effective. So at 90% about 1 in ten are not protected from the virus. That ten percent are still at risk of becoming ill. However the millions around the world who are recovered, or at least no longer shedding virus, are not at risk or becoming sick nor can they shed virus and infect others.

I have also felt for a while that the actual numbers of already infected and recovered will turn out to be much higher than is showing to be the case by the testing numbers so far. This is just something I figure and I cannot prove. As the accurate information piles up this may be shown to be so.

I guess the situation is there now seems to be a "thing" about masks that does not make sense (follow the science also). For me, since I am not sure I have had the virus, is still makes sense to take precautions such as wearing a mask. There are many who got confirmed to have had the actual virus and are clear of the virus by now. These folks are not at risk and could be in a room saturated with covid19 and will not get sick again. What is the purpose of a mask for them? The way it looks, to me at least, there is some sort of social stigma about masks apart and separate from the effects of the virus itself.
 
As soon as parents insist on masks, the teen kids will toss them.
That's how teenage kids think.

So family-to-family transmission is highly likely.
But far more people have had covid than we know, because our data collection is pitiful.
It never covers cases unreported or unrecognized.

And "unrecognized" is the key, Since most cases are similar to a cold in people with normal immune situations, many folks who have/had covi9-19 won't ever know.
 
nd "unrecognized" is the key, Since most cases are similar to a cold in people with normal immune situations, many folks who have/had covi9-19 won't ever know.
Hello; There are antibody tests that should indicate if a person has had the virus. I plan to get one but have been thwarted twice so far at the local Kroger pharmacy. First time there was two pages of forms to fill out so I brought that home to fill out. Went back with the form last time I went shopping but was told they were too busy (First of the month). I will need groceries again so will try again. Trouble is it will cost $25. I guess that is not too much to know if I am still at risk. My brother had such a test but it was negative so he is still at risk.

An example of these tests being used is recently some blood samples from back in 2019 were tested and it was found that the covid19 virus was around many weeks earlier than we have been told. I will shamelessly toot my own horn here a bit and point out I had been thing this was the case back early in one of the two threads where I took part. Best I can recall that did not go over well back then
 
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